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Do you still use a Fax machine?

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by Footloose, Jul 12, 2018.

  1. Footloose

    Footloose Well-Known Member

    Well, looks like the NHS are still using at least 9000 of them and probably masses of machines still using Win95. Now the latter issue may well be that a fair bit of the medical kit can't/ hasn't had software updates for the later O/S's, but that (in my opinion) raises the issue why MS, can't produce an O/S that's capable offering users the ability of still using 'out of date' drivers and software.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-newcastle-surrey-sussex-health-a8443006.html

    Is this because MS gets it's newest programmers are too 'Geeky' and just don't want to integrate what the previous O/S used, because they think what they come up with is 'better'? After all, I can use pretty-well any keyboard with any O/S, so why can't the same thing apply to the Inputs & Outputs of other devices? I've never heard a valid reason why these can't be put through some form of 'converter' which then feeds that into the 'new' ones. Laziness? the urge to flog newer hardware? I've got a Dye-Sub printer which is incapable of running because my PC uses a newer O/S and it's manufacturer, is still only providing drivers for older than Win 10 machines, on the machines they are currently selling / manufacturing!
     
  2. SXH

    SXH Well-Known Member

    Not personally, but the Observer Everyman Crossword entries can be sent by post or fax.
     
  3. RobertCoombes

    RobertCoombes Well-Known Member

    I have always assumed that they stuck to Fax because it is virus free. As to old drivers, I used an old unsigned driver for my Nikon scanner. It involves using different setting for one session, a web search will tell you how.
     
  4. SXH

    SXH Well-Known Member

    True, but when I was still working ( grief, is it 10 years ago?) we used to get a lot of Fax spam - used to clog up our big printers on a regular basis (the phone system re-routed it there automatically).
     
  5. PeteRob

    PeteRob Well-Known Member

    I've got a fax built into my all-in-one printer. I don't have a phone line run into the office (I use Skype telephony ) but I could hook it up if I wanted. I think most company systems using linked telephony/computers will now accept a direct fax to the desktop in the same way as scan-to-pdf and e-mail. Independent fax machines have gone as the fax/copy/print function has become integrated. There is still a need to send facsimile documents. If I send an invoice I print it, sign it, scan it and email the pdf, then wander down the post office and put the original wet-inked version in the mail. Then I print the scan for the paper file the accountant likes to see.

    It's a bit pointless bringing up the Microsoft doesn't support xxxx anymore, especially when the onus is on the peripheral maker to provide a driver. It is a fact of life. Old machines can still be used (until they break). The threat is that if they are connected to a network they are vulnerable to attack.
     
  6. RogerMac

    RogerMac Well-Known Member

    Just got rid of mine, for some years I had only one use for it - ordering repeat prescriptions of rat poison from my doctor. However it needed a new toner and I am moving house so it did not seem worth moving a rather bulky machine. I think that most doctors accept repeat requests via email now so I will investigate that when I get a new doctor. It had stopped having a dedicated line years ago and only got plugged in when I needed it
     
  7. Footloose

    Footloose Well-Known Member

    Probably mentioned this before -
    I knew someone who used to live in S.A and when his pharmacy ran out, he'd go down to the hardware store and get some Warfarin there ... Presumably, Rats don't 'deserve' the meds version, or haven't complained. ... o_O - Which raises the stupid question, has anyone (eg animal Rights campaigner) complained the pest version, is inhumane, as it might have some additional nasty side-effect - on the Rats? :eek::)
     
    Last edited: Jul 12, 2018
  8. spinno

    spinno Well-Known Member

    Does it take pictures like my smartphone:rolleyes:
     
  9. Roger_Provins

    Roger_Provins Well-Known Member

    A few years ago when I was still in gainful employment we could only receive examination results via fax or recorded post. I don't know if it's still the case.
     
  10. Petrochemist

    Petrochemist Well-Known Member

    The photocopiers at work can fax things too. It's still a convenient way of sending contracts etc.

    WRT the older drivers, we were occasionally using some windows 3 software on win 98 till about a year ago.
    The last instrument for that has now failed, so the newer hardware has to be used, it's just not as easy to automate.

    It's not the only place where older software has proved much more user friendly. Modern laboratory software is generally written to be compliant with Pharmaceutical regulations which have no bearing on us & require any changes to be documented to the roof...
     
  11. Bazarchie

    Bazarchie Well-Known Member

    Probably not seen a fax for 15 years.
     
  12. Benchista

    Benchista Which Tyler

    Haven't seen or sent a fax in years.

    But I do have a working Win 3.11 machine.
     
  13. AndyTake2

    AndyTake2 Well-Known Member

    The jump from Windows 3.1 to 95 killed a hell of a lot of machinery. 98 to XP did a similar thing. I can remember having to dispose of a scanner, but there were lots of other bits and bobs that stopped working. Never had a fax machine, apart from one built into printers.
     
  14. Trannifan

    Trannifan Well-Known Member

    Then again, given the apparent experience of the NHS with IT providers and projects over the years................"If it ain't broke don't fix it!"

    Lynn
     
    Last edited: Jul 13, 2018
  15. Benchista

    Benchista Which Tyler

    Our surgery has online ordering of repeat prescriptions. Many pharmacies will do it for you, too.
     
  16. Malcolm_Stewart

    Malcolm_Stewart Well-Known Member

    Back when (~1995?), I "saved" a microfiche reader, and a motorised microfilm reader from the skip - thinking that they'd come in useful one day for my family history searches..I've never bought any fiche or films, they've gathered masses of dust, and I'm now offering them foc to an agency which specialises in moving analog data to digital.

    I remember having fax software many years ago, but certainly not now, and again the onward "progress" has stopped me being able to edit video as easily as I used to be able to do.
     
  17. PeteRob

    PeteRob Well-Known Member

    We have a microfiche reader for that very purpose!
     
  18. Roger Hicks

    Roger Hicks Well-Known Member

    Still have one; use it for communicating with doctors occasionally. No dedicated line any more though: I use it for sending only, and have to plug it in.

    Cheers,

    R.
     
  19. Roger_Provins

    Roger_Provins Well-Known Member

    Our local pharmacy gets my prescription from the docs every 28 days and delivers it to me. How lazy can you get! ;) It's not a branch of large chain but just a small independent owned and run by a young couple of pharmacists.
     
  20. SXH

    SXH Well-Known Member

    Whereas every twelve weeks, I have to take two walks to my local pharmacy - first to order the repeat and a week later to collect it. Well, I have to get SOME exercise! ;)
     

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