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Come on then...Brooklyn Beckham

Discussion in 'Talking Pictures' started by Geren, Jun 29, 2017.

  1. Geren

    Geren Well-Known Member

    Apparently he launched his first photobook this week complete with celebrity party and much media coverage. Some of which, hasn't been all that favourable. There has been mirth and merriment aplenty with regards to some of the shots and perhaps even more so the captions he put with them. Did we expect better? Do we care? Is it perfectly alright for the 18 year old son of an ex pro footballer/ex pop mimer turned 'fashion designer' to decide he's 'a photographer' and milk his parents celebrity for all its worth? Would you buy the book? Are elephants really that hard to shoot?
  2. Fishboy

    Fishboy Well-Known Member

    They are if you're looking for 'em in Rochdale...

    On one hand I think that the pictures and associated captions that I've seen from the book so far are very poor...very poor indeed.

    On the other hand, he's a young chap with a substantial following of fans who's been paid to produce this book. If a publisher walked up to me and offered me a fist-full of readies to produce a photo book, I'm sure that any reservations about whether the quality of my images was high enough would go right out of the window!

    I suppose that the bottom line is that there's no obligation for any of us to buy the book and as long as nobody's shoving it my face and extolling its virtues (which, in my opinion, would be a real 'emperor's new clothes' situation) then I'm happy to let him get on with what he's doing and let his fans spend their money as they wish.

    Cheers, Jeff
  3. Geren

    Geren Well-Known Member


    It's interesting. I've had two online discussions today regarding photography, and in both cases my response has been, 'well, nobody's forcing you...' or thereabouts.

    I've now gone and looked for more information and htere are one or two quite nice images among a lot more dreadful ones. But I don't think 'photographers' are his target market. That would be Brooklyn Beckham fans. I think I had hoped for more though because I saw his dad extolling his talent on some TV chat show and was waiting to see what this was going to look like. I'm not sure it looks like anything other than a modern day media obsessed teen's output, but perhaps after throwing enough money at his New York photography education, there might be something there in time. I was given teh link to the Daily Mail coverage (always awful) and as ever, read some of the comments, most of which were oblivious to the point you made above...nobody's forcing anyone to buy the book.

    The second conversation I had was the so-called 'scandal' of Microsoft paying to buy a licence to use images from a stock photo site...and then using the photos as per the terms and conditions of the licence. The 'argument' being that because they are Microsoft, and because the images ended up on home screens on millions of computers etc, they should have paid more. I'm struggling to see the problem really, other than it demonstrates once again how undervalued photography is when every Tom, Dick and Brooklyn can call themselves a photographer!
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  4. Andrew Flannigan

    Andrew Flannigan Well-Known Member

    The worship of celebrity is a curse for those of us whose brains are still functional. :(
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  5. Terrywoodenpic

    Terrywoodenpic Well-Known Member

    Photography is an unregulated profession, because photographers want it that way.
    we can hardly complain about the crap that come with that.
  6. RovingMike

    RovingMike Crucifixion's a doddle...

    Linda McCartney, Paddy Lichfield, Princess Di, I guess we forget the ones who weren't much good very quickly and remember those that even merely by the access they have, contributed something worthwhile.
  7. Roger Hicks

    Roger Hicks Well-Known Member

    Dear Terry,

    Trade, surely, rather than profession.

    And while the cult of celebrity is pretty tedious, it's even more tedious when it is extended to the apparently talentless offspring of celebrities. I have a lot of time for David Beckham, as he has no illusions about his talents outside football and is quite honest about that. But his wife and son apparently suffer from delusions of adequacy.

    Another odd trade is journalism. Again, unregulated (as it should and indeed must be) but apparently quite lucrative regardless of talent if you read for an arts degree at Oxford; have no scientific knowledge whatsoever; and get a job on the Grauniad on the strength of those qualifications alone.


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  8. PhotoEcosse

    PhotoEcosse Well-Known Member

    Indeed. Normally, a profession involves passing through gateways designed to exclude the laity.

    Mind you, once upon a time, trades involved serving an apprenticeship under the patronage and guidance of a journeyman, so maybe photography is not a trade either.

    Craft? Or is that starting to sound masonic?
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  10. PhotoEcosse

    PhotoEcosse Well-Known Member

    I guess the most surprising thing about your post was the revelation that Brooklyn Beckham is male. (I did Google to check and you are correct.)
  11. Fishboy

    Fishboy Well-Known Member

    The story is that they named him 'Brooklyn' because that was where he was conceived. It's a good thing that this is a modern trend, otherwise I'd have had to go through life answering to 'Torremolinos'.

    Cheers, Jeff
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  12. SXH

    SXH Well-Known Member

    The Toremelinos Kid does have a ring to it... ;)

    Mind you, I would probably be either Benchill or Gran's Spare Bedroom. :eek:
  13. Geren

    Geren Well-Known Member

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  14. dream_police

    dream_police Well-Known Member

    Could be worse. "Back alley" or "Ford Escort" wouldn't be too good.
  15. MJB

    MJB Well-Known Member

    You'd get on well with my daughter, Ford Escort.
  16. MJB

    MJB Well-Known Member

    Quality cross-posting.
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  17. dream_police

    dream_police Well-Known Member

    Lol. Showing our age and some of our own past histories!

    Got what you could, where you could!
  18. Geren

    Geren Well-Known Member

    Too much information flying around for this time of the morning!
  19. dream_police

    dream_police Well-Known Member

    Sorry :(
  20. MJB

    MJB Well-Known Member

    A mkII in Daytona yellow with a black vinyl roof and velour upholstery. It is the afternoon now , so let's live dangerously.

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