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But who WOULD be the next PM...??

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by dangie, Oct 6, 2017.

  1. dangie

    dangie Senior Knobhead

    As Trezzer May has just received the football manager's vote of confidence from the Board of Directors and will therefore be sacked next week, who will replace her?

    More importantly, who will replace her and make a decent job of it?
  2. peterba

    peterba Well-Known Member

    Do you mean "who will make a decent job of it?", or do you mean "who will make a decent job of it, by comparison?".

    If the former, then I've no idea. If the latter, then my answer would be "Almost anyone"... although, either of the supposed "favourites":rolleyes: (i.e. Boris Johnson, or the [exceedingly weird] Hon. Member for the 18th century) could probably make at least as hopeless a mess of it as she has - and would be even more annoying, to boot.

    I must say that - whilst the current loathsome shower remain in office - I can see no prospect of improvement.
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  3. Zou

    Zou Well-Known Member

    I think @willie45 's cat has to be in with a shout.
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  4. RovingMike

    RovingMike Crucifixion's a doddle...

    It can only be Boris. As ever we are prone to mistaking what politicians see as the issue or problem and this is my realism, not cynicism. The problem is not who will do a good job on Brexit, the NHS etc, it is simply who will stop Corbyn and his madness and save their own jobs at the next election? A man who was seen as too extreme and with potentially disastrous policies a year ago has now, thanks to Tory division and a mad snap election, been catapulted into a very dangerous position, where, for the sake of their own skins, many wiser socialist folk have set aside their rational objections and gathered round him.

    That gathering and the threat it creates of Labour not falling apart as seemed inevitable, will have the same effect on the Tories and they will gather round Boris. It doesn't matter that Boris is mad. Churchill was hopelessly incompetent at regular government and apart from being fired over the Dardanelles, had just organised the total screw up in Norway that Chamberlain was ousted for. It mattered not a jot. Define what the "job" really is and you get your answer.
  5. Zou

    Zou Well-Known Member

    Contenders? Rudd, Hammond, Johnson, Rees-Mogg, Gove. It took longer to write that list than it would take to list every positive quality of all of those candidates combined.

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  6. nimbus

    nimbus Well-Known Member

    Let's be honest about this, there is no apparent talent anywhere in any of the political groups that pose as a party. The current PM may well be the least bad that we possess.
  7. peterba

    peterba Well-Known Member

    Errrr, no.
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  8. dangie

    dangie Senior Knobhead

    This is what I mean. It's one thing saying 'anyone is better than May' but in reality who is better than May?

    Or more to the point, who is better than May and wants the job! A poison challace as it is!
  9. Zou

    Zou Well-Known Member

    There are plenty, but none in the Tory party...
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  10. Terrywoodenpic

    Terrywoodenpic Well-Known Member

    Think back to Thatcher, when she was ousted all they could find was Major.
    They must have an equivalent little inoffensive nobody lurking somewhere.
    In time to lose the next election.

    Both the Tories are lookig back to past times.
    The tories to a pre Eu Great britan when the UK was a power in their minds, bu inreality had lost just about everthing.
    And Labour are lookig back to a time of nationalisation and union supremacy.

    The amazing thing is that the electrote is falling for it. Both times were disasterous and a time of terminal decline.

    It is about time we came to our senses and looked to the future, and recognised that our time in the EU has been a time of recovery growth and hope.

    It is a time to end this brexit nonsence and re elect a centerist government. It seems unlikely but the lib dems are probably our only rallying point.
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  11. Craig20264

    Craig20264 Well-Known Member

    Is this the part where DC rides back into town declaring " This referendum thingy, I was only joking guys!"
  12. Terrywoodenpic

    Terrywoodenpic Well-Known Member

    It is probably too soon for the Tories, or anyone else, to recognise that the coalition under Cameron was a very effective Government.
    Cameron was a 19th century Liberal in Tory clothing. And he had the best interests of the country at heart. However he was too "fair" for his own good. And that is not a trait that Tories care for.
    The coalition with the liberals was far more effective than the coalition he had with the right wing of his own party in the following parliament.
  13. peterba

    peterba Well-Known Member

    Except that HE turned out to be the joke. Or rather... similar to a joke, only not as funny.
  14. Zou

    Zou Well-Known Member

    Don't bring the poor dead pig's head into this...
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  15. Zou

    Zou Well-Known Member

    What dictionary defines "the country" as an exclusive subset of people excluding the poor, disabled, or other disenfranchised minorities? The only people's interests he had at heart were his and those like him - capitalists whose very existence and lifestyle requires a subservient underclass of those denied the full value of their labour.
  16. Terrywoodenpic

    Terrywoodenpic Well-Known Member

    Believe what you like. That is certainly true of his party. however he was always a one nation Tory. Politics and government is about the "Possible" and policies are always a compromise. the policies of that government were heavily tempered by liberal ideals.
    In the following government he was heavily outnumbered by right wing idealists. and the policies likewise had to follow that trend.
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  17. Andrew Flannigan

    Andrew Flannigan Well-Known Member

    In a democracy you get the government that the lowest common denominator deserves. Still works better than the alternatives.
  18. Learning

    Learning Ethelred the Ill-Named

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  19. peterba

    peterba Well-Known Member

    I thought you said that you didn't want to make anyone feel ill...
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  20. Roger Hicks

    Roger Hicks Well-Known Member

    Dear Terry,

    Unfortunately he was also dim as a Toc H lamp, a snivelling coward, and a rabid opportunist.

    But hey, he was a ONE NATION Toc H lamp, snivelling coward, and rabid opportunist.

    And he appears not to have been as vile as most of the alternatives. Or even quite as incompetent (yes, Treese, we're looking at you).


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