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bateman's tower revisited

Discussion in 'Exhibition Lounge' started by Dan S, Sep 10, 2019.

  1. Dan S

    Dan S Well-Known Member

    I did have a go at usin a layer mask a moment ago and got this

    [​IMG]wivmist2 by Dan, on Flickr

    I think I might take some more shots with PS in mind.

    I'm guessing that focus stacking works in a similar way? I might try that too as I'm struggling always getting the foreground in focus.
     
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  2. peterba

    peterba Well-Known Member

    Did you add the mist to a non-misty shot, using a layer and layer mask, Dan?
     
  3. Dan S

    Dan S Well-Known Member

    the morning was misty and so I took two different exposures and then blended them. It took a while and it wasn't as successful as I had hoped as the blending using a brush was a bit harsh, I need to soften the brush a bit but not sure I'm doing it right. The video I watched was using an older version of PS so I had to work out where I was going :)
     
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  4. peterba

    peterba Well-Known Member

    If you're having difficulties with brush harshness for masking, I would suggest that - in addition to the hardness setting for the brush - try experimenting with the brush's opacity and flow settings. Also, try experimenting with using a larger brush than you might think appropriate, as this also gives softer edges. You'll find that in a given situation, one of these settings might prove better than the others, so just experiment until the nuances of choosing between these different options become intuitive.
     
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  5. Dan S

    Dan S Well-Known Member

    Thanks Peter. A larger brush, now you've said it, might be the answer I'm looking for. I did try the opacity, but that affected all then brush strokes I had used, not just the one I was using at the time. Is that correct?

    Also, the content aware tool that Tony mentioned. I can move things but I have no idea actually what it is actually doing or how to use it correctly.
     
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  6. peterba

    peterba Well-Known Member

    Yes, that's right. Once set, the brush will continue with those settings, until you change them again. I frequently use the larger brush method, because I find it more convenient. The brush size can be adjusted quickly and easily (IMO;)) using the [ and ] keys, if you prefer.
     
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  7. peterba

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    The content aware tool is something of a mixed blessing. :( In certain situations, it works superbly, but when it doesn't, it's completely useless. All you can do is to try it - and if it works badly for the situation that you're working on - then simply 'undo' the effect, and either try using it slightly differently, or try another method entirely. It's very rare that there's only a single way of achieving the desired result, in PS.
     
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  8. Dan S

    Dan S Well-Known Member

    That might speed things up a bit, thanks :)
     
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  9. peterba

    peterba Well-Known Member

    I find it much quicker. (BTW, for clarity, those are square bracket keys)
     
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  10. Dan S

    Dan S Well-Known Member

    I've worked out that I can move things with it, but the image that I have moved, then wont go away... any ideas where I'm going wrong? Sorry to trouble you so much, I'm really appreciating your help.
     
  11. peterba

    peterba Well-Known Member

    I can't visualise the problem, from your description, Dan. :oops: Would it be possible to post some screen extracts showing what you were trying to do?
     
  12. Dan S

    Dan S Well-Known Member

    Arghhh, its driving me crazy. For some reason the healing brush now doesn't work at all.
     
  13. peterba

    peterba Well-Known Member

    If your image has more than one layer, be sure that the layer mask isn't highlighted - the healing brush does nothing on a mask. Also, make sure that the currently active layer isn't an adjustment layer... the same applies.
     
  14. peterba

    peterba Well-Known Member

    Note (reference my previous post) that you can have a layer selected, either on the mask (the mask edges will change to a double line), or just on the layer itself i.e. not on the mask (mask edges will return to a single line). These two 'conditions' will give a very different function. Hope this helps.
     
  15. Dan S

    Dan S Well-Known Member

    OK, It is working now, not sure what happened, maybe it was being temperamental. Thanks for your help Peter. Once I moved the object with the content aware tool, I moved it to some a place where I could then erase it. I'm not sure if that is the best way to do it, but it seemed to work. It's a bit of a learning curve and watching some videos I think :)
     
  16. peterba

    peterba Well-Known Member

    Dan, I'm intrigued - and slightly puzzled - by your description of "moving" an object with the content aware tool. :confused: It doesn't quite match the way that I use that tool - care to elucidate? :) (Glad to hear you've achieved what you were trying to achieve, BTW!)
     
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  17. Dan S

    Dan S Well-Known Member

    With the content aware move tool. I drew round the thing that I wanted to move (a lifebuoy), then clicked on it and dragged it elsewhere in the photo. then I double clicked on where I had moved it from, which made the original placement of the lifebuoy disappear, leaving a crude but healed spot, but I was left with a floating lifebuoy that I had moved elsewhere into the photo. Once I moved it I didn't know how to get rid of it. Right clicking didn't help... right clicking works for everything right? ;), or so I thought. Ill see if I can show you what I mean
     
  18. Dan S

    Dan S Well-Known Member

    [​IMG]Screenshot (2) by Dan, on Flickr

    You may be able to see where I had moved it a couple of times, the last one was flaoting in space. The only way I could remove it was with the healing brush
     
  19. Dan S

    Dan S Well-Known Member

    Oh, and I am finally getting somewhere with PS, many thanks Peter :)
     
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  20. peterba

    peterba Well-Known Member

    My apologies, Dan - I've just realised that you're using a more recent version of PS than the one I'm used to. I guess that you're on CS6, or CC? Anyway, that explains why I couldn't understand - it's because I'm not familiar with the 'content aware move tool'. :oops: That tool must be a more sophisticated derivation of the content-aware tools that were in earlier versions.
     

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