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51st state?

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by Roger Hicks, Nov 9, 2017.

  1. Roger Hicks

    Roger Hicks Well-Known Member

    The choice is up to Britain, says Barnier.

    Which would you prefer? That, or what Barnier calls "the European model"?

    Have you ever lived in the USA?

    Cheers,

    R.
     
  2. Maroon

    Maroon Active Member

    Is there really anyone who would want to follow the U.S. model..
     
  3. Roger_Provins

    Roger_Provins Well-Known Member

  4. saxacat

    saxacat Well-Known Member

    It seems strange that many euro sceptics complain about the ambitions of the EU becoming a federal state, yet admire the federal state that is the USA :confused:
     
  5. steveandthedogs

    steveandthedogs Well-Known Member

    I am European. The last thing I want is to become involved with the US in any shape or form.

    S
     
  6. Learning

    Learning Ethelred the Ill-Named

    I am a European as well. The USA is appalling. The EU s also appalling for different reasons. The EU is European but is not Europe.
     
  7. steveandthedogs

    steveandthedogs Well-Known Member

    Why is the EU appalling? And what are the advantages of leaving?

    S
     
  8. Roger Hicks

    Roger Hicks Well-Known Member

    Dear Steve,

    To quote The Famous Eccles (when asked "What is your name?"):

    Ah: the hard ones first, eh?

    Cheers,

    R.
     
  9. d123

    d123 Well-Known Member

    Has a Brexit supporter ever managed to supply an answer to that question?
     
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  10. steveandthedogs

    steveandthedogs Well-Known Member

    Err, no.

    S

    ps apart from "double yawn".
     
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  11. Andrew Flannigan

    Andrew Flannigan Well-Known Member

  12. steveandthedogs

    steveandthedogs Well-Known Member

    I could live with that. Especially if it included, say, Germany, Holland, Benelux, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Poland....

    Just not the "Kingdom" bit.

    S
     
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  13. Roger Hicks

    Roger Hicks Well-Known Member

    Dear Steve,

    Be fair. "Double yawn" passes for intellectualism among many brexiters -- and it's twice as difficult as "Yawn", after all.

    Cheers,

    R.
     
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  14. rmd44

    rmd44 Active Member

    Ranting again.
     
  15. Roger Hicks

    Roger Hicks Well-Known Member

    You really aren't very good at this, are you?

    Oh: and look up the meaning of "ranting" sometime.

    Cheers,

    R.
     
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  16. rmd44

    rmd44 Active Member

    I suppose I could have used ‘tirade’ ‘harangue’ ‘diatribe’ or even ‘philippic’ but I’m happy to continue
    using ‘rant’ as,in this case it seems to fit your total obsession with Brexit.

    I feel sure that if anyone posted on the best way of boiling an egg,you’d probably claim that this couldn’t be done outside the EU.

    Out of curiosity is someone, like me,who voted against joining the EU 40 years ago a 'brexiteer’ or someone who has stuck to his principles for the last 40 years ?
     
  17. steveandthedogs

    steveandthedogs Well-Known Member

    So why do you want to leave?
    Please give a sensible answer, and not your usual.

    S
     
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  18. Terrywoodenpic

    Terrywoodenpic Well-Known Member

    Pigs always keep their curly tails for life, but they also remain pig headed...

    A brexiteer who was a moron at the start is likely to remain one, whether they have any principles or not.
     
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  19. Trannifan

    Trannifan Well-Known Member

    There is a suspicion that Johnson, Gove & co. want the brexit 'negotiations' to fail so that they can turn the UK into a '51st' state with or without any official merger.

    Heaven help us! And...........count me out!

    Lynn
     
  20. Trannifan

    Trannifan Well-Known Member

    So you've spent the last 40 years assiduously avoiding anything that might have even the vaguest hint of the EU in it?

    Lynn
     
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