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    How to get good reflections in eyes?

    I have a monthly comp with reflections as the topic. Rather than water reflections i would like to get reflections in someone's eyes. What's the best way to go about this? Do i need to light up the subject i want to be reflected?

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    Re: How to get good reflections in eyes?

    Many photographers want to eliminate those reflections! You need to have a light source near the camera: on camera flash comes to mind but this will be too harsh and create 'red eye'. You could try a directional hand held torch, possibly an "AA Mag Light" with the reflector removed giving just a small bright light source. A lot will depend on the level of ambient light. With digital it costs nothing to try as much experimentation as practicable.

    Or you could use Photoshop!

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    Re: How to get good reflections in eyes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Maddison View Post
    Many photographers want to eliminate those reflections! You need to have a light source near the camera: on camera flash comes to mind but this will be too harsh and create 'red eye'. You could try a directional hand held torch, possibly an "AA Mag Light" with the reflector removed giving just a small bright light source. A lot will depend on the level of ambient light. With digital it costs nothing to try as much experimentation as practicable.

    Or you could use Photoshop!
    I read the question very differently... Bob's reply will give you a catch light in the eye. I think what you want, however, is a reflection of "something" in an eye... In which case, you need to keep the intended reflected subject very well lit so that it will reflect nicely.

    If you have off camera flash, use that to light your reflected subject, or position the subject near a window and your eye further into the room so it's a little darker. If you're using natural or continuous light, a opposed to flash, then you'll see when the reflection looks best. You'll need a large depth of field to keep the eye and reflected subject in sharp focus.

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    Re: How to get good reflections in eyes?

    Perhaps I did read the question wrongly. In fact my answer isn't too far off anyway, as the eye will pick up catch lights (i.e. a bright source of light, much more easily that any normally lit gross object.

    If you are trying to get a reflection of the surroundings, as opposed to a catch light, then you have another major problem. The curvature of the eyeball means that the 'field of view' is extremely wide (and distorted) and it will be difficult to recognise anything. This also means that it will be difficult to light the whole of that 'field of view' so that it does show up at all. It will also be very difficult to exclude the camera and photographer (unless that is what you want). That is why a catch light from a near point source is easier and it being out of focus merely serves to increase its apparent size!

    Again, as the previous repondent said, you will have a major DoF problem as the reflection will appear to be in the distance whereas the eye will, presumably, be very close to the camera. As I said before, it might be easier to use Photoshop to merge two pictures - artificial I know and I can't say I would approve, but it might be a more practical proposition.

    Let us know how you get on.

    However, as I said before, digital photos cost nothing to try anything!

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    Re: How to get good reflections in eyes?

    Afterthought. Have you ever noticed how, in films, the reflections from a spectacle lens are usually with a plain (flat) lens. This is because the very gentlt curvature of any normal lens makes it almost impossible to see the reflection in any meaningful way.

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    Re: How to get good reflections in eyes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Maddison View Post
    Afterthought. Have you ever noticed how, in films, the reflections from a spectacle lens are usually with a plain (flat) lens. This is because the very gentlt curvature of any normal lens makes it almost impossible to see the reflection in any meaningful way.
    Flat lenses are used in movies primarily because they are far easier to light without reflections than curved ones which are a gaffer's nightmare. For the same reasons flat lenses are therefore far easier to light to get a desired reflection if required. Any half decent gaffer can light to get reflections in curved glass though if the camera angle allows.
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    Re: How to get good reflections in eyes?

    thanks i'll have a go over the weekend.

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    Re: How to get good reflections in eyes?

    Quote Originally Posted by rjbell View Post
    Do i need to light up the subject i want to be reflected?
    Yes but I don't think you'll have any real DoF issues....


    http://www.flickr.com/photos/89845979@N00/3110277898/
    eye-reflection-av http://www.flickr.com/photos/89845979@N00/3110277898/ by Andrew Robertson http://www.flickr.com/people/89845979@N00/, on Flickr

    That's me reflected in my own eye with a macro lens Sorry it's only avatar size!

    Or if working with available light shoot with the sun behind the subject but out of frame and make sure the thing you want reflected is well let.

    A hefty crop from a head shot:

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/89845979@N00/5916878278/
    Ti-eye-crop http://www.flickr.com/photos/89845979@N00/5916878278/ by Andrew Robertson http://www.flickr.com/people/89845979@N00/, on Flickr

    Same technique seems to work with bubbles too....sun behind the camera to minimise reflections...

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/89845979@N00/4536255402/
    stargate? http://www.flickr.com/photos/89845979@N00/4536255402/ by Andrew Robertson http://www.flickr.com/people/89845979@N00/, on Flickr

    ....sun behind the subject and well lit things to reflect for loads of reflections....

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/89845979@N00/4508706741/
    bubbled http://www.flickr.com/photos/89845979@N00/4508706741/ by Andrew Robertson http://www.flickr.com/people/89845979@N00/, on Flickr
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    Re: How to get good reflections in eyes?

    Assuming that you have got the reflection, or catch light, that you are after, then you can accentuate it with a polarising filter. This is just about the only filter whose effect can not be fudged in Photoshop.

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