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    New toy ...

    Dont know if this is the right place to post this?
    but i was given this tonight ... need help in finding out how to use it

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    Re: New toy ...

    hehe, you love toys, don't you!
    sorry I have no idea how it works, but maybe you should post in the "Help Team" dept.
    enjoy it.
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    Re: New toy ...

    How do you get given this stuff! Not quite sure how you use it-the frame is for contact printing and may not be anything to do with the "box"-If you open the flap on the box top is there a glass "window" inside? If so you sandwich a neg and paper on the glass and expose it by means of a lamp in the box-possibly! Have fun!


    This site may be of interest/use if you haven't already found it
    Just checked Focal Pictorial Cyclopedia (1979) and Focal Encyclopedia (1961) and they both describe a similar process to the above for a contact printing box
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    Re: New toy ...

    hehe, you love toys, don't you!
    love em
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    Re: New toy ...

    How do you get given this stuff!

    cause im a lady ... init!

    Thanks, it does have glass under the flap it also has small whole at the back-to fit a light bulb? on the sides there is an orangy kind of plastic ....covered inside the box by glass and a flap inside to, tis very starnge

    on the box its does say contact printer and darkroom lamp ... thanks for the links, i couldnt find anything last night, might take more pics and post in help room.

    thanks again
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    Re: New toy ...

    That begins to make sense-the orange material would allow the box to be a safelight via the windows on the side, and the flap would control light to the window where the neg/paper is to be exposed. Is the glass screen inside frosted? The Amateur Photographers Handbook (Sussman, 1965) describes something similar but with both a white and ruby (safelight) bulb in it,switching between the two by opening and closing the flap above the neg. I think yours is missing some wiring if there's no lampholder though this would be replaceable.
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    Re: New toy ...

    A lot of us made our very first prints using a 'contact' printer. Seeing the (often blurred) image appear in the dish was the beginning of a life long love affair. That one seems very up-market to me, mine was a very simple Patterson I think. Basically the negative lies on the glass, the paper lies on top of that. You switch the light on for a few seconds and then dip the paper into the dev, wash, fix, wash solutions and hey presto - a print.
    Only the size of the negative of course - it is in no way an enlarger.
    Mind you, if you are using 10 X 8 film then it will be a very decent print indeed.
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    Re: New toy ...

    A lot of us made our very first prints using a 'contact' printer.
    ... on "printing out paper" .... can you still get that? Exposed in daylight, took several minutes strong sun & you could see the density building up ... when it was exposed about right, the paper didn't need developing, just fixing. IIRC the images had a nice sepia tone.
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    ... on "printing out paper" .... can you still get that? Exposed in daylight, took several minutes strong sun & you could see the density building up ... when it was exposed about right, the paper didn't need developing, just fixing. IIRC the images had a nice sepia tone.
    I would love to get hold of some - plenty of sun out here, and you don't have to make a test strip - just check from time to time that it's cooking OK!

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    ... on "printing out paper" .... can you still get that?
    I think I remember reading in Black & White Photography that the last supplier was Kentmere and that it was discontinued when Ilford bought them out some years ago something to do with one of the chemicals in the emulsion been not usable due to modern 'health and safety' rules. Though they may have given a 'home brew' recipe for those wishing to coat their own paper.
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    Re: New toy ...

    I'm sure Silverprint supply POP under the name of Centennial.
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    Re: New toy ...

    Thanks guys, i tried to read and understand but its early !
    hetic night at work so will leave for the morning ....

    but thank you
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    I'm sure Silverprint supply POP under the name of Centennial.
    Read here and weep!

    I understand that for a time there was a single run per year, for pre-ordered stuff. The last run, I believe, was in 2006.

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    Oh well, you can still use ordinary paper although a tad of experimentation will be required to get the exposure right. Oh yes, and a deal of patience in a darkroom cutting it down to size
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    Re: New toy ...

    Just my luck, i kind of understand the process, is the neg put in the black holder with glass? there was alao some red plastic frames to go with it, or is the neg put on the glass on the box and the paper put inside the box? will post a couple more pics, if any of you lovely chaps wanna pop in and show me how it works .....
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    Re: New toy ...

    A few pics ....



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    Re: New toy ...

    Oh well, you can still use ordinary paper although a tad of experimentation will be required to get the exposure right. Oh yes, and a deal of patience in a darkroom cutting it down to size
    Try a search for 'Lumen prints'. A fancy name for a very simple process. No developer or darkroom needed - just fixing and washing.
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    Re: New toy ...

    The contact printing frame brings back memories - I might still have mine somewhere!

    The red masks are of course to provide white borders around your prints. You normally use a red or orange safe light within your darkroom when making B&W prints, as red light does not affect B&W printing paper.

    You can use this thing with conventional B&W printing paper and normal development, experiment to find the correct exposure - a red light will be required to see what you are doing!

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    You have two separate things-the black frame is used to contact print with an external light source, the box is designed to use it's own light source (which is missing).
    To use the frame, cut (or buy) paper to size to fit the frame. Open the frame and lay the paper in first,then the neg (emulsion side down) and then any of the masks you want to use. Expose the frame to a suitable light (an enlarger with no neg in would prob be most convenient). You would have to test a bit to find the right exposure-I would suggest starting at the settings used to enlarge a neg with the enlarger head at a given height-then remove the paper from the frame and develop in the normal way.
    The box is used in a similar way, except you would lay the neg first on the top window emulsion side up, and then put the paper on top and close the flap-the exposure being made by the light in the box
    The emulsion side of the neg must be against the paper otherwise the image must travel through the film backing-which may make it fuzzy!
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    Re: New toy ...

    Morning

    Thank you, I wasnt to far off then ....

    all i need is the light in the box,
    what would you suggest?

    thank you thank you thank you

    If i didnt have to work today id have a play
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