As rare as hens teeth.......... but damned expensive
Ebay DMR
It's actually about the same as the most recent I've seen on ffordes (a now sold DMR at £2500 plus any of the numerous R8 bodies at a touch under £500). If the seller was UK based I could have been more tempted.
Tim BSRIPN
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Glad I've got mine. I bought my second DMR (a used R8 plus DMR) from a Leica dealer last year for only £1700 complete. Now that was a bargain.
Charlie
I think paying that much for a DMR is relatively high risk. Kodak don't make the sensor anymore and who knows what else in the electronics package is now unavailable. Just have to hope Leica have enough stockpiled parts to keep these things going - including batteries.
Mark
Agree on all counts, which is the main reason I didn't jump for the ffordes one despite being sorely tempted several times. When I last looked Boris still had the batteries listed in the R special section.
Tim BSRIPN
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The batteries will continue to be available as R spares for the forseeable future, or so I'm told. At 1700 quid for the DMR AND R8, I was quite happy. I now have two DMRs to service my inventory of R glass. The image quality remains very high from the DMR (better in some ways than the M8), so why change?
Charlie
Speed, for one. The DMR is desperately slow to use, 1 frame a second, maybe.
Mark
True, but as shouldn't need to be re-stated so often as it is here, not everybody needs a bazillion frames a second. How many shots d'you think HCB got off each second using the screw cameras?
Tim BSRIPN
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Yeah, but I bet he would've used something with a much greater frame rate had it been available when he started.True, but as shouldn't need to be re-stated so often as it is here, not everybody needs a bazillion frames a second. How many shots d'you think HCB got off each second using the screw cameras?
Maybe, but would his pictures have been any better. That is the fundamental, not how many frames one can whip off in a given time.
Tim BSRIPN
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Mark,
One frame a second is fine by me. Actually it's 2fps. For me, it's about waiting for the right moment. As one might say, less is more.
Personally I love the DMR. It has loads of faults (slow frame rate, poor high ISO capabilities, average battery life, use of small SD cards only, weight etc). But for those of us who use one, the image quality is just great. Amazing if you consider how old the design is.
I like both my DMRs and my Ms (M2, M6ttl and CLE). But they're different tools to do different jobs. Just like film is different to digital.
Charlie
Shopping around the UK Leica ADs websites there is a DMR on offer at just £1695 ... and has been there for two weeks. Seek and find if you want one.
Cheers
dunk
Yes, seen that one. I wonder if the rather lowly rating for it (by comparison with most examples that come up) has put people off. The Chinese one went with Buy It Now - not to me!
Tim BSRIPN
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Tim,
Having bought quite a lot from the dealer in question, his gradings are very conservative. I've had exc+ items off him, that look like mint-. Over the past few years, I've had 2 new DMRs (with R9s), a heap of new R glass (28-90, 80-200/4, 180/2 demo) and some second hand stuff too (demo 1.4x, exc+ 2x APO, exc+ 2x extenderR, 19/2.8). The second hand stuff has been much better than a lot of stuff I've seen in person at other leica dealers.
Charlie
Charlie,
Thanks for that - very interesting. I've often looked at the ads; maybe one day will do a bit more than that.
Tim BSRIPN
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Tim,Charlie,
Thanks for that - very interesting. I've often looked at the ads; maybe one day will do a bit more than that.
Frank is a great guy to talk to. He's very honest and open about things; he'll always take stuff back if you don't like it or if it's not as described. The shop is tiny, but he has a very substantial mail order business. He shifts more gear than many more well appointed stores in the south east. His customers are often happier too. Oh and he knows his onions too, having been an ex-pro photographer and cameraman.
Charlie
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