I'm currently using Ilford XP2 Super 400 film and love it, but I'm looking for something with even more grain for an experiment, any suggestions?
Also, I'm virtually positive I know this answer, but high grain, low speed film cannot exist correct?
I'm currently using Ilford XP2 Super 400 film and love it, but I'm looking for something with even more grain for an experiment, any suggestions?
Also, I'm virtually positive I know this answer, but high grain, low speed film cannot exist correct?
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XP2 is relatively fast at 400 ISO and is remarkably fine grained as well. One of the older "proper" (dare I say?!) B&W films will give more grain, even FP4 will show more grain than XP2. Different developing solutions can affect grain too, although most are aimed at reducing it rather than emphasising it!
The easiest way to emphasise grain is probably to shoot with the intention of cropping the image. Easiest if you do your own printing since you will know where you wanted the crop to be.
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ISTR that SFX (ISO 200) can be quite grainy if used without the IR filter, but that could be completely wrong!
If you were to process your own film (not too difficult and you don't need a darkroom) you could experiment with developer / film combinations. Rollei retro 100 ( was Agfapan APX100) in Rodinal at 1:25 can get you some decent grain at a low speed.
480K picture apx100 aprox. 800x1200
Try 'pushing' (underexposing and overdeveloping) any fast(ish) film like HP5 or Tri-X and you'll see an increase in grain. You'll also get an increase in contrast which may or may not be helpful. You could try pushing Ilford Delta 3200 up to silly speeds and devving it in Ilford DD-X. Another method, like one of the previous posters mentioned, would be to use Rodinal or some other 'acutance' developer.
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You say "even more grain", but XP2 is a very fine-grained film indeed - the main reason I don't like it, TBH. There are lots of good suggestions already - personally, I love HP5 in Rodinal, which has lots of grain but in a pattern I find pleasing. Others prefer the grittier Tri-X - both of these films are traditional, grainy yet sharp "fast" films (not so sure they seem that fast any more!). I've used a fair bit of Delta 3200 and T-Max 3200 over the years - either gives a lot of grain. SFX is another favourite of mine that I shoot with a deep red filter that gives visible grain and lovely tones.
This is very interesting, I se the XP2 becuase it's C41 and my local 1 hour joint can develop it, perhaps it's how they develop it, but I see heavy grain in the results:
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j2...t/splash-1.jpg
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j2...croblobs-1.jpg
and especially here:
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j2.../icecocoon.jpg
But I will look into the other suggestions as well.
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or you could try to develop say TriX or Delta 3200 in a diluted paper developer. (Normal paper dilution will give very short times) It will need some experimentation to get the times right but that is a sure fire way to get more than obvious grain from B&W film. This can be even more enhanced by using a higher temperature than the usual recommended 20C.
I pushed a roll of HP5 up to 3200 and over developed it in d76 and I had grain like golf balls. It was perfect for the scenes that I had shot.
Yup, that'll do it!I pushed a roll of HP5 up to 3200 and over developed it in d76 and I had grain like golf balls. It was perfect for the scenes that I had shot.