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    B. Film camera - Rolleicord V

    For the benefit of the newbies, this a twin lens reflex (TLR) camera taking 12 exposures on 120 film. Each negative is approximately 6x6 cms in size. It is fitted with a viewing lens and a taking lens. This means that you don't need a mirror assembly/pentaprism to allow you to focus, but, due to the small distance between the two lenses, you don't quite see what the taking lens does. This is not an issue for distant objects. TLRs had a following from professional photographers for a number of years, and are capable of very good results.

    The Rolleicord is the amateur photographer's version of the full blown Rolleiflex, selling for a fraction of the price. It is a well made camera however.

    Over the years a range of different lenses were fitted, with the most recent models receiving a 4 element Tessar type lens. Mine is fitted with a Schneider Xenar 4 element lens of this type.

    Some Rolleiflex cameras also had Tessar type glass, but the later top of the range models used much better 6 element lenses.

    The Xenar is capable of excellent results, but only if stopped well down. A 6x6 Xenar Rolleicord negative taken at f11 will blow any 35mm effort out of the water. At wider apertures the quality rapidly falls off however. I tend to use iso400 film to enable me to use smaller apertures routinely.

    The camera is fitted with an anachronistic shutter mechanism that you have to cock before firing. That is you have to both wind on and cock the shutter. This is not a problem once you are used to it, and, compared to an SLR, the shutter is very quiet.

    The view finder is not good. It's a bit like peering into a pit, and, when you are getting on a bit, any side light tends to prevent you from accurately focusing. If you are daft enough to carry around and use a black cloth to go over your head, that cures the problem

    There are alternative third party focusing screens that are alleged to improve matters, but they are not cheap.

    Did I mention that everything appears back to front, like looking in a mirror? This is fine for static subjects, but takes a bit of getting used to when your subject is moving. There is a so called "sports finder" where you abandon the viewfinder for a glassless view portal. This is actually quite useful.

    The shutter speeds and apertures are linked. In use you take a light value from your (separate - it does not have one) meter and adjust both to conform, then as you change one parameter the other is automatically adjusted to maintain that constant exposure value.

    When buying a TLR of any kind, you need to check that the focus is smooth and that the lens plate is parallel to the film plane. If the camera has been dropped there is a chance that this will not be the case.

    The slower shutter speeds tend to jam up if the shutter is not well exercised, but a CLA will usually cure this.

    Despite the fact that the camera has two lenses, it is not excessively large nor heavy. Compared to a typical 120 film SLR it is a pleasure to carry it around.

    Conclusion. I have to say that, of the film cameras that I regularly use, it takes third place behind my 35mm Pentax and Bronica 120 cameras, but I have always liked the Rolleicord. It is an idiosyncratic camera, but an interesting and enjoyable photographic tool for occasional use.

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    Re: B. Film camera - Rolleicord V

    I've taken the liberty of modifying the typo of "full blown Rolleicord" to "Rolleiflex".

    In general, an excellent summary. I've a number of Rolleicords, from an early model with the three-element Triotar through to V, Va and a Vb. The Vb is the latest and last model with interchangeable focus screens and hood (you can fit a prism if you want), and is the best of all. The standard screen in the Vb isn't as bad as in earlier models, and that makes it easier to use. A Beattie screen transforms it, but at significant cost. I've fitted replacement screens to earlier models, too (cheap on ebay!) that make enough of a difference to be worth it.

    The Xenar is a pretty decent lens. Wide open, it's lovely for portraits, and at f11 you can't tell the difference between it and the better Planar and Xenotar 5 or 6 element lenses - so it's a good all-rounder.

    The other main difference between the Rolleicord and the Rolleiflex is that it has a knob wind rather than a lever wind.

    Last point I would make is that there is a masking kit for later models to shoot what amounts to 645 format.

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    Re: B. Film camera - Rolleicord V

    I've taken the liberty of modifying the typo of "full blown Rolleicord" to "Rolleiflex".
    Thanks Nick, I must learn to engage brain before hitting keys.

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    Re: B. Film camera - Rolleicord V

    My copy of the Vb was originally sold as part of the kit, Rolleicopi, designed for photographing oscilloscope screens, around the early '60s. The body is light grey. There was a conical (diecast?) metal adapter for mounting the camera on the front of the oscilloscope, and I think focusing was achieved on the taking lens using a close-up lens.

    The special viewfinder arrangement is stepped to offset the screen in view of the extreme close-up which was the norm for this camera. This also compensated the viewing system for the short distance to the 'scope screen.

    I think it had a very short life in this application as 'scope photographs were being taken on dedicated Polaroid 'scope cameras when I started work in 1962. Far more convenient, and a no-brainer for this application.

    I think the kit might have been marketed by Philips, and the outfit was contained in a fitted case.

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    Re: B. Film camera - Rolleicord V

    I have a 'cord Vb with the 75mm f3.5 Xenar and agree about f11 for definition-just as good as a Hasselblad Planar. I also have Rolleiflex 2.8Fand 3.5F Planar models. I used the 'cord (an ex-Brentwood Gazette newspaper camera,bought for £60 years ago)for photos at the 1940's re-enactment weekend on the Severn Valley Railway with Ilford XP2 Super and outdated Kodak T-Max 100 and have got some 20x16" exhibition prints from it,with the 16-on kit,No Trouble!
    Got COMPUTERISED at last and now Digitised but FILM still RULES!

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    Re: B. Film camera - Rolleicord V

    I used the 'cord (an ex-Brentwood Gazette newspaper camera,bought for £60 years ago)for photos at the 1940's re-enactment weekend on the Severn Valley Railway with Ilford XP2 Super and outdated Kodak T-Max 100 and have got some 20x16" exhibition prints from it,with the 16-on kit,No Trouble!
    Any chance of seeing any of these images?

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    Wheelu: I think I have put the photos on this site in the Exhibition Lounge - I am not sure how to do a back 'search' to find them but I will try --- Peter.
    Got COMPUTERISED at last and now Digitised but FILM still RULES!

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    Wheelu: I think I have put the photos on this site in the Exhibition Lounge - I am not sure how to do a back 'search' to find them but I will try --- Peter.
    Thanks for that, it does seem appropriate to add some photos to a camera review!

    Here are a couple of my Rolleicord shots.

    Stadium of Light

    Swimming Pool

    Anybody got more to add?

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    Re: B. Film camera - Rolleicord V

    Wheelu: here are some Rolleicord Vb photos: I don't know how to put just a 'link'to them at the moment so here they are from my photohosting site:they are from the 16/on set I got on e-bay.

    [Open Image] [Hosted by PhotoGalaxy.com]
    T-Max 100 outdated 1996 rated @ 50ASA processed in Acutol S formula 1+1 toned in PhotoShop

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    T-max 100 outdated 1996 as above.

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    Ilford XP2 Super dated 2007 home-processed in C41,fill-in flash

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    Ilford XP2 Super as above.
    Got COMPUTERISED at last and now Digitised but FILM still RULES!

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    Re: B. Film camera - Rolleicord V

    Super period shots Pete, that of the young guard through the train window is great.

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    Re: B. Film camera - Rolleicord V

    As an update to my original post, I have just taken delivery of a new focusing screen from Rick Olsen.

    Rolleicord users will know that the focusing screen is the Achilles heel of the camera. For me it really spoils what is a great photographic tool, so any improvement is welcome. Rick's screen is very competitively priced so I thought it well worth a closer look.

    My new screen has a central split image rangefinder and Fresnel rings, but Rick supplies a variety of types. I found it difficult to take out the original screens (ground glass and plastic Fresnel), despite removing the hood and return springs, so eventually took it to my local repair man as I was concerned I might cause damage. He fitted the new screen for a fiver.

    It is wonderfully bright and the rangefinder works a treat. I've yet to try a film through it so it might not be properly calibrated, but so far it is a huge improvement on the original. Rick does provide detailed guidance on calibration so that should not be a major problem.

    While the ultimate test has yet to take place, so far this product is highly recommended!

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    Re: B. Film camera - Rolleicord V

    Thanks for your update.

    I found that the split image/microprism collar focusing screen from my Rollei 6006 SLR can replace that on my Rollei Vb, although they're slightly different shapes. Much easier to use, and appears to share the same register, but I haven't done any really definitive checks. My Vb photographs on FP4 were certainly sharp enough to cover my family group, but I was using a tripod and f11! More important in a Vb is to ensure that the pressure plate is seated correctly.
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