I voted yes, I'd have one with the wide-angle lens. I used to carry around a Zeiss Ikon folding camera and loved it.
I voted yes, I'd have one with the wide-angle lens. I used to carry around a Zeiss Ikon folding camera and loved it.
BSRIPN (Officially full of it..)
Well, a "state of the art" Super Ikonta (Tessar lens) cost something like £27-30 in 1936. Using standard conversion tables/formulae that's about £1400 in today's money.Re what price is reasonable ....
£350 perhaps.
Lower production costs and larger markets nowadays give us "state of the art" cameras at about half of that cost. Making a further allowance for the Fuji 67 RF not being remotely "state of the art" - my guess is ....
Yup! £350 also - that's a quarter of the price of a Super Ikonta. At that price it'd be a bargain!
Very interested, but it would depend on the price being right.
Carrie
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. (George Bernard Shaw)
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I'm a big fan of MF rangefinders, and if it weren't for the fact that my needs in that department are well supplied by the Mamiya 6 (which has the clear advantage of interchangeable lenses to boot) I'd certainly be interested.
As for the lens, it sounds like a reasonable compromise to me - it will certainly suit a lot of people. Good wide lenses are not all that compact, and would probably be far too deep for the folding design which clearly motivates this camera. The 80mm focal length, OTOH, will allow a compact design of very high quality indeed.
As in my post - not whilst retaining the compact folding design - at least not of terribly high quality.50mm, please!
Compact wides certainly are possible - the Dagor type was a stand-by for yonks in the LF world (and still is for many, especially ULF people, though I don't think anyone still makes them) - but it's not all that great unless stopped down well, and even then can't really compare with a good Biogon type. It's also not terribly fast. The narrower angle of the 'standard' lens (which 80mm is - just about) allows much, much better quality and at a much larger aperture, without the lens becoming either big or heavy. It really is a far more reasonable choice for a camera like this.
Dont think we will get one for less than about £5-600, more likely around the £750 mark I would have thought.Re what price is reasonable (snip)
£350 perhaps.
I've already started saving the pennies
I must confess that I prefered the look of the MF image in that review, but I already have good 6x7 cameras with interchangeable lenses and a good 6 x 9 folder, so no real interest to me.AP would appear to disagree, given the Canon 1Ds Mk3's place compared to 120 film in its review on Feb 2nd...I agree entirely with Zou, at the right price I would buy one.
You can't beat a larger negative for quality
David.
I would like to say yes as I have been hankering to do some MF photography for a while.
BUT despite the fact that there are loads of superb 2nd hand MF cameras available at little money I haven't actually done anything about it. As others have pointed out, it would be nice to know what sort of price we're talking about.
I certainly like the idea but then I would also have to start thinking about getting something like the Epson V750(??) scanner (The one with the wet neg olders) to get the best scans from it.
I'd like to have a go with one but I think I'm unlikely to buy one.
Right. I can vote now. Yes. They should go ahead with it.
Cheers
David
When using MF i use my untrustworthy Holga. It cost me £12.50! I only use B and W film - and i have found the Holga to be a bargain
peter
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I would like to see a larger format sensor be more available, which should push down the price of 35mm size sensors. the jump between aps-c and 35mm and then up to medium format sensors is astronomic ! So I want a 66 Mp Sensor in a camera for 1500 quid with incredible quality lenses at 89.99 !!! I have had a few to drink !! ( I also want 89 fps at 66mp !!!!) I also want ........... no I cant say that !!! a) cos its not true and b) cos thats how likely my previous request is !!!
As for MF folders well I could be tempted if he quality was right !! although I have never dev'd MF I would like to play !
Yes, I like the combination of lousy quality lens with excellent quality film. You can see the blur in great detail.When using MF i use my untrustworthy Holga. It cost me £12.50! I only use B and W film - and i have found the Holga to be a bargain
peter
Well it's not really - the EOS 5D is heading rapidly for the £1000 barrier and is about the same sort of price as the D-300 and E-3, which seems pretty competitive to me.the jump between aps-c and 35mm ... is astronomic
Indeed. And I'd venture to suggest that the cost differential between a Canon EOS 1Ds and a 400D, or between a Nikon D3 and D40, has far more to do with quantity production costs than it does with the price differential between an APS-C and a full frame sensor - which is probably at most a few pounds at the production plant gate.Well it's not really - the EOS 5D is heading rapidly for the £1000 barrier and is about the same sort of price as the D-300 and E-3, which seems pretty competitive to me.
If you're not living on the edge, you're wasting space
I'd second that.
As for the 120 vs 1DS MkIII comparison, does it matter? Surely the important thing is we should have a choice. Whether one is 'better' than the other is hardly the issue. Photographers have to make their own decisions on what picture quality means to them.
Stop giving the Russians ideas!!....I would like to see a larger format sensor be more available, which should push down the price of 35mm size sensors. the jump between aps-c and 35mm and then up to medium format sensors is astronomic ! So I want a 66 Mp Sensor in a camera for 1500 quid with incredible quality lenses at 89.99 !!! I have had a few to drink !! ( I also want 89 fps at 66mp !!!!) I also want ........... no I cant say that !!! a) cos its not true and b) cos thats how likely my previous request is !!!
(Kiev 6C user)
Nostalgically I would like one, but realistically I know that I would not use it. Developing film is OK but I no longer have a darkroom for printing and am not sure that I would enjoy working alone printing anyway. As for scanning medium format I am just not set up for it; I bought a Coolscan 5000 not an 8000 yet rarely use my F100 camera.
For a fixed focal length camera I think that a Sigma DP2 (if it has a 24mm lens and ever exists) would be my choice.
Whatever, I think that Sigma's offbeat DP1 has more potential than Fugi's film folder.
All I can say is hooray
50mm please if Huws caveats can be sorted.
Hells pensioner - born to be mild
JustMono
I wanna I wanna I wanna waaah
I love my old Ensign 820 but the back broke off recently and although I superglued it on its still too fragile really. And Pan F rated at EI 32 and deved in PMK (6.30 + 2) gives quality that digital has no hope of equaling. This seems like the modern version I've long wanted, so if the price is right...
Dave
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