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Kamepa
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Ilford HP5 120 film using Ilford Multigrade paper developer
      #867724 - 07/02/2010 10:57

Has anybody any educated estimates on dev time for Ilford HP5 120 film using Ilford Multigrade paper developer. A 1+19 solution works with FP4 120 at around the 4 minutes mark. Is this going to be similar?

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Re: Ilford HP5 120 film using Ilford Multigrade paper developer [Re: Kamepa]
      #867784 - 07/02/2010 14:55

To my surprise, I see that the timings for FP4 & HP5 in Rodinal are the same, so your guess shouldn't be too far out!

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Re: Ilford HP5 120 film using Ilford Multigrade paper developer [Re: Malcolm_Stewart]
      #867796 - 07/02/2010 16:29

Quote:

To my surprise, I see that the timings for FP4 & HP5 in Rodinal are the same, so your guess shouldn't be too far out!




Thanks just developed the HP5 at 3.5 minutes with the negs looking OK. Albeit this from another camera to the one I used last time with the FP4. A very crude Braun Paxina with a simple vario shutter and a very fast f2.9 lens for what is a cheap medium format box type camera. I was unsure about the accuracy of the aperture setting as the setting ring goes well past the f2.9 stop. The lens might be as fast as f2 but I doubt it


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Re: Ilford HP5 120 film using Ilford Multigrade paper developer [Re: Kamepa]
      #867802 - 07/02/2010 16:49

I remember being somewhat gob-smacked when a school mate brought in his 120 folder fitted with an 105mm f2.9 Schneider Radionar (if memory is correct they were being sold off cheaply by Wallace Heaton). This was back in 1953/4 when my 12 on 120 folder was a Dacora with the 75mm f5.6 Subita lens, and 3 speed Vario shutter. It took me many years to save and get a decent Zeiss Ikonta; and stupidly I lent it to my girl-friend's brother who left it on a Lake District peak. (It had gone by the time he went back o look for it.)

I now have an excellent condition Balda Baldix fitted with an 80mm f2.9 lens.

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Re: Ilford HP5 120 film using Ilford Multigrade paper developer [Re: Malcolm_Stewart]
      #867809 - 07/02/2010 17:20

Quote:

I remember being somewhat gob-smacked when a school mate brought in his 120 folder fitted with an 105mm f2.9 Schneider Radionar (if memory is correct they were being sold off cheaply by Wallace Heaton). This was back in 1953/4 when my 12 on 120 folder was a Dacora with the 75mm f5.6 Subita lens, and 3 speed Vario shutter. It took me many years to save and get a decent Zeiss Ikonta; and stupidly I lent it to my girl-friend's brother who left it on a Lake District peak. (It had gone by the time he went back o look for it.)



I now have an excellent condition Balda Baldix fitted with an 80mm f2.9 lens.







Shame about leaving the camera on top of a peak in the Lake District. The camera I have been using today is somewhat basic box type camera with a collapsible lens. The lens is a Steinar Bayreuth f2.9 75mm which does look very impressive in such a strange camera body.

I have a working folding Balda Baldax with 73mm f3.5 Meyer Gorlitz Trioplan Lens mounted in Compur Shutter dating I think from the early 1930's. It cost me £6 last year in a junk shop.


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Re: Ilford HP5 120 film using Ilford Multigrade paper developer [Re: Kamepa]
      #867822 - 07/02/2010 18:21

First scan:

Taken at 25th f2.9

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4043/4338295964_dfeb94bdc5.jpg

Edited by Kamepa (07/02/2010 18:22)


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Re: Ilford HP5 120 film using Ilford Multigrade paper developer [Re: Kamepa]
      #868007 - 08/02/2010 13:12

Not bad at all! How do you find the Trioplan on the Balda performs? I've got a Welta Perle (6x4.5) with one, heard that it's a good lens as triplets go. However due to various issues inclusing duff film and the nut that holds the shutter (big problem that one - it'll have to go!) I've only ever got one decent pic out of it...

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Re: Ilford HP5 120 film using Ilford Multigrade paper developer [Re: gray1720]
      #868060 - 08/02/2010 15:30

Quote:

Not bad at all! How do you find the Trioplan on the Balda performs? I've got a Welta Perle (6x4.5) with one, heard that it's a good lens as triplets go. However due to various issues inclusing duff film and the nut that holds the shutter (big problem that one - it'll have to go!) I've only ever got one decent pic out of it...

Adrian




Sounds like typical problems I have had with similar cameras.





Balda Baldax with 73mm f3.5 Meyer Gorlitz Trioplan Lens images:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3468/3995640263_5c7e3dab51.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2571/3995640533_57ec1e3e65.jpg


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Re: Ilford HP5 120 film using Ilford Multigrade paper developer [Re: Kamepa]
      #868145 - 08/02/2010 19:56

Methinks you may have a slight light leak with those bellows, old thing...

My Perle turns out to have a 75mm f2.9 lens - assuming that the date I have of about 1934 is right, that was a lightning-fast lens. Probably also had all sorts of exciting flaws wide-open too!

Here 'tis...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gray1720/3555577285/in/set-72157615594775003/

Adrian

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Re: Ilford HP5 120 film using Ilford Multigrade paper developer [Re: gray1720]
      #868177 - 08/02/2010 22:49

Quote:

Methinks you may have a slight light leak with those bellows, old thing...

My Perle turns out to have a 75mm f2.9 lens - assuming that the date I have of about 1934 is right, that was a lightning-fast lens. Probably also had all sorts of exciting flaws wide-open too!

Here 'tis...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gray1720/3555577285/in/set-72157615594775003/

Adrian




Nice camera. I notice you also have a Moskva 4. They are the impressive looking folding camera

How many cameras do you have?


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Re: Ilford HP5 120 film using Ilford Multigrade paper developer [Re: Kamepa]
      #868274 - 09/02/2010 11:22

Somewhere around 50... certainly too many, but my efforts to recycle a few at the local Oxfam camera sale were thwarted when, having donated four, I bought two more! Ooops...

Yes, I'm very fond of my Moskva 4 - sadly, the bellows are on their way out so I need to make the time for some major surgery before my next hillwalking holiday.

Adrian

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