GeoffR
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Anywhere is worth the effort of photographing properly. For what it's worth, I just realised today that I have never bought an accessory (and that includes lenses!) for over £40. Even my most expensive camera was just £300.
Doesn't stop me from dreaming though. 
You are right it was a poor choice of words. If you have the best part of £6000 to spend you could go to Yellowstone, New Zeeland, The Ngorongoro crater etc. Holiday of a life time destinations.
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parisian
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Unfortunately though, a holiday is just for a fortnight; a good camera is for life  
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GeoffR
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Unfortunately though, a holiday is just for a fortnight; a good camera is for life
Ah but I have a good camera! Well actually several of them and a collection of Nikon prime lenses but I have never been to New Zeeland.
If you are even considering a £5500 camera chances are that you already have at least one good camera. How many people buy a Leica or a D3x as their first serious camera? I still maintain the holiday with your old camera is good value.
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parisian
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Well neither have I Geoff, but I think for choice I would choose inland China as a destination, there are so may sights there that I would be stuck for choice.
Then of course it is which Nikon, Hasselblad, Rolleiflex or Leica to use.
The really big decision would come if you could only take one body and one lens, for that I would have to 'film' it and go XPan.
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ASTROVANMAN
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Well that provoked a few comments then.
Firstly I've been into photography since the early 1970's and have had many cameras in that time, my all time favourite has to be the Olympus OM-1, closely followed by Canon's A1.
My Nikon purchase (it could easily have been Canon, had they offered someting I liked) was a very considered decison over about 6 months before taking the plunge, and I am very happy with it, it's nice to have some nice kit again after a few lean years, and as for film that's catered for as well with a S/H F5.
As for holidays, I looking at that now, not yet decided where to go, but it'll not be too far away, somewhere in Europe me thinks this year.
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parisian
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somewhere in Europe me thinks this year.
Rhyl?
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ASTROVANMAN
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From what I have heard of Rhyl from friends who lived nearby, it's a no go area.
Outside the UK wherever I go.
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parisian
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Definitely a no-go area - even for the Law I believe 
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ASTROVANMAN
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Still that bad then, I was talking of a few years ago.
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parisian
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Still that bad then, I was talking of a few years ago.
Oh a lot worse now. 
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SkiRunOne
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The Nikon name was chosen to capitalise on the success of the market leading Zeiss Ikon brand (the Contax) of the day. Nikon even based their first camera on a Contax. Regardless of how Nikon is pronounced in Japan, the pronunciation in the UK should therefore be neyekon, just like eyekon.
Unless of course you pronounce Ikon as eekon, or ickon!
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Barney
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Regardless of how Nikon is pronounced in Japan, the pronunciation in the UK should therefore be neyekon, just like eyekon.
As Nikon is an invented proper noun, pronunication should be as the company wants, irrespective of any influences.
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I claim the traditional right of the English to mis-pronounce any foreign name or word
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As a long time Nikon user I despair
Give over. In the last two years we've seen the D3, D300, D700, D3x, D90 and D5000 launched and yet you're complaining that they haven't launched a D400 or D700x.
I really think that companies just can't win sometimes, either they release too many cameras, or they don't release enough.
I see your point about C size and full frame. What about Coolpix. They are no better than Cannon. Oly are making tbe pace in compacts with the EP-1 Pen, and rumour has it that Panasonic/Leica will not be far behind.
Nikon win on the full frame sports machine D3. In other areas they are just as good as the rest. An innovative small camera with a decent size snsor is essential for survival in the up amateur market. I suspect a number of professionals will be carrying the new Oly when 'off duty'. It should be a Nikon.
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Barney
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As a long time Nikon user I despair
Give over. In the last two years we've seen the D3, D300, D700, D3x, D90 and D5000 launched and yet you're complaining that they haven't launched a D400 or D700x.
I really think that companies just can't win sometimes, either they release too many cameras, or they don't release enough.
I see your point about C size and full frame. What about Coolpix. They are no better than Cannon. Oly are making tbe pace in compacts with the EP-1 Pen, and rumour has it that Panasonic/Leica will not be far behind.
Nikon win on the full frame sports machine D3. In other areas they are just as good as the rest. An innovative small camera with a decent size snsor is essential for survival in the up amateur market. I suspect a number of professionals will be carrying the new Oly when 'off duty'. It should be a Nikon.
Both Nikon and Canon are happy to let other manufacturers launch new technologies to test the market before launching their own but I doubt whether either will follow Olympus and Panasonic's lead with the MFT.
Are for traditional compacts, Samsung lead the way in terms of volume sales, but do we want Nikon chasing this high volume, low margin, fast churn market?
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how do you pronounce Nikon?
You think you've got problems; try talking about the planet Uranus in front of a bunch of teenagers
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parisian
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Indeed, whoever christened it that was talking out of his @rse 
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Barney
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how do you pronounce Nikon?
You think you've got problems; try talking about the planet Uranus in front of a bunch of teenagers
Why, do they run rings around you?
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Ethelred the Ill-Named
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As a long time Nikon user I despair
Give over. In the last two years we've seen the D3, D300, D700, D3x, D90 and D5000 launched and yet you're complaining that they haven't launched a D400 or D700x.
I really think that companies just can't win sometimes, either they release too many cameras, or they don't release enough.
I see your point about C size and full frame. What about Coolpix. They are no better than Cannon. Oly are making tbe pace in compacts with the EP-1 Pen, and rumour has it that Panasonic/Leica will not be far behind.
Nikon win on the full frame sports machine D3. In other areas they are just as good as the rest. An innovative small camera with a decent size sensor is essential for survival in the up amateur market. I suspect a number of professionals will be carrying the new Oly when 'off duty'. It should be a Nikon.
Both Nikon and Canon are happy to let other manufacturers launch new technologies to test the market before launching their own but I doubt whether either will follow Olympus and Panasonic's lead with the MFT.
Are for traditional compacts, Samsung lead the way in terms of volume sales, but do we want Nikon chasing this high volume, low margin, fast churn market?
Of course Nikon and Canon will not do MFT; they are both committed to their own standards, but they could do something similar but better.
The upmarket quarter size sensor will not be fast churn mass market. It will be a very desirable product comparable to a late Leica 3 with collapsible Elmar.
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