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snowqueen
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enlarger lens
      #776071 - 20/03/2009 12:13

Just a quick question, im looking for a 50mm enlarger lens for my philips enlarger ......

does it have to be a philips make? or do most lens fit most enlargers?

I will also need a larger neg holder, are these easy to find?

will be developing 120 film
thank you

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Re: enlarger lens [Re: snowqueen]
      #776104 - 20/03/2009 13:59

Almost anything will do - there's a standard mount (the M39 screw mount - same as Leica screw thread lenses) for 50mm enlarging lenses.

Re. the negative holder, I don't know - I must admit I didn't know Philips had ever made enlargers. That might tell you something about what to expect, though.

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Re: enlarger lens [Re: huwevans]
      #776111 - 20/03/2009 14:44

Thank you ...

I am more than certain its a philips ....

better double check when i get home

ive seen some lens on ebay

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Re: enlarger lens [Re: snowqueen]
      #776114 - 20/03/2009 14:53

Quote:

...looking for a 50mm enlarger lens for my philips enlarger ......

...I will also need a larger neg holder, are these easy to find?

will be developing 120 film





Probably quite difficult to find nowadays, but you might be able to get thin glass, 2mm, cut to size at your local glaziers. I can remember some enlargers I used years ago having two pieces of glass hinged together with adhesive tape. Or, you could try the S/H Darkroom or Nova Darkroom.

Edit: Forgot to add that 50mm enlarger lenses are fairly common items at camera fairs.

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Edited by Malcolm_Stewart (20/03/2009 14:54)


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Re: enlarger lens [Re: Malcolm_Stewart]
      #776137 - 20/03/2009 16:22

thank you ...

me, cutting glass, maybe not a good idea!

but i know a man who can

didnt think of camera fairs,i will have to see if they have any in my area, i did look on ebay, but will check out the two sites you mentioned.

once again, thank you

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Re: enlarger lens [Re: snowqueen]
      #776177 - 20/03/2009 18:41

I know a man that can cut glass too...my big bro is a glazier. Don't tell me he might actually be useful for something

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Re: enlarger lens [Re: snowqueen]
      #776288 - 21/03/2009 09:08

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I will also need a larger neg holder, are these easy to find?

will be developing 120 film
thank you




Trudy, if you are printing 120 negs you will need a 75mm or 80mm enlarging lens to cover the larger negatives, you will need a 50mm lens for 35mm negs. though.

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Re: enlarger lens [Re: zx9]
      #776293 - 21/03/2009 09:34

Quote:

Quote:


I will also need a larger neg holder, are these easy to find?

will be developing 120 film
thank you




Trudy, if you are printing 120 negs you will need a 75mm or 80mm enlarging lens to cover the larger negatives, you will need a 50mm lens for 35mm negs. though.




What I was going to say, otherwise I think you get light falloff at the edges.
Never seen a Philips enlarger, just wondering if it is a 35mm only or can it be used for MF? You can probably pick up an 80mm lens from ebay.

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Re: enlarger lens [Re: huwevans]
      #776295 - 21/03/2009 09:41

I have a Philips enlarger, bought used many years ago. It is a well made piece of equipment, made in japan, presumably for, rather than by Philips.

With regard to negative holders, assuming the enlarger is similar to mine, various sizes were available to fit the carrier. The usual 35mm strip, 645 and 6x6 masks and also a 35mm slide carrier were all available, but I would imagine will be hard to find now. I had to order mine from Jessops, when they were worth patronising, and they took a while to arrive. I seem to remember Paterson were the distributor in the UK. The lamp used was a standard 150 watt ES enlarger type.

The lens mount has two positions, the position for smaller negatives holds the lens closer to the film, for larger formats, further away. For work with 120 films there was a larger condenser, that supplied with the machine being for 35mm etc. The model is PCS 130.

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Re: enlarger lens [Re: daft_biker]
      #776298 - 21/03/2009 09:55

I think he might!

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Re: enlarger lens [Re: nimbus]
      #776301 - 21/03/2009 10:01

Quote:

I have a Philips enlarger, bought used many years ago. It is a well made piece of equipment, made in japan, presumably for, rather than by Philips.

With regard to negative holders, assuming the enlarger is similar to mine, various sizes were available to fit the carrier. The usual 35mm strip, 645 and 6x6 masks and also a 35mm slide carrier were all available, but I would imagine will be hard to find now. I had to order mine from Jessops, when they were worth patronising, and they took a while to arrive. I seem to remember Paterson were the distributor in the UK. The lamp used was a standard 150 watt ES enlarger type.

The lens mount has two positions, the position for smaller negatives holds the lens closer to the film, for larger formats, further away. For work with 120 films there was a larger condenser, that supplied with the machine being for 35mm etc. The model is PCS 130.




Thanks for the info
I will see if i can get hold of a carrier .... my lens is a screw in one ... ive got a philips pcs 1000 ...

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Re: enlarger lens [Re: zx9]
      #776302 - 21/03/2009 10:05

Quote:

Quote:


I will also need a larger neg holder, are these easy to find?

will be developing 120 film
thank you




Trudy, if you are printing 120 negs you will need a 75mm or 80mm enlarging lens to cover the larger negatives, you will need a 50mm lens for 35mm negs. though.




I meant to type 80mm ...... blonde moment!

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Re: enlarger lens [Re: snowqueen]
      #776341 - 21/03/2009 13:38

Quote:

I meant to type 80mm ...... blonde moment!




And they're not so common at camera fairs.

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Re: enlarger lens [Re: snowqueen]
      #776346 - 21/03/2009 14:12

Quote:

I meant to type 80mm ...... blonde moment!




If you just want something to get you started, I've got a perfectly serviceable 80mm Schneider Componar-S that I have no use for. (Came bundled with a used 5x4 enlarger that I bought a few years ago, but I already have a variety of good lenses for medium format.)

It won't be top notch, but it would do the job. No use to me, so I can bring it along to Brownsea next week if you want it. [FOC, of course - no selling allowed on these forums! ]

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Re: enlarger lens [Re: huwevans]
      #776359 - 21/03/2009 15:42

Thank you thank you ...

If its really no use to you, i would be very grateful
thats very kind of you ....

this will be the first time ive shot and developed medium format

and its only thanks to john im able to have a darkroom at home ....


see you at brownsea,
i'll be the one wandering around not knowing whats shes doing!

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Re: enlarger lens [Re: snowqueen]
      #779225 - 31/03/2009 14:09

Quote:

thank you ...

me, cutting glass, maybe not a good idea!
once again, thank you




2mm glass is standard picture framing glass a local framer will be able to supply this for you

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