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Bazzac



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Zenith Photosniper
      #708515 - 19/09/2008 08:25

Hi, I've not posted here in ages but I very often look in to see what's going on.

I'm trying to dig myself out of hole I created recently.

Can anyone remember an article (web or magazine) that suggested to use one of these Photosniper Kits under current anti-terrorism laws would be deemed illegal? Do you recall the item? The one with a 300mm TAIR lens and a rifle stock and trigger. Comes out of a case that makes you look like an assassin!

I've had a quick looky-see but we're in the process of moving house and I don't have the time to spare to research it thoroughly.

I just thought someone on these hallowed boards may be able to redeem my credibility. I was thinking it was actually in an edition of AP.

Here's hoping.

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beejaybee
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Re: Zenith Photosniper [Re: Bazzac]
      #708532 - 19/09/2008 08:59

Quote:

Can anyone remember an article (web or magazine) that suggested to use one of these Photosniper Kits under current anti-terrorism laws would be deemed illegal?



Eh?

Of course the legality or otherwise would be of little consequence to you once the Met have filled your head with (illegal) fragmenting bullets from real firearms. And it does occur to me that attempting to use one of these in a public place might very well result in an over-reaction of that kind.


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El Sid
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Re: Zenith Photosniper [Re: Bazzac]
      #708538 - 19/09/2008 09:08

AP ran an article a couple of years back on a guy who owns a old camera gun - ie a Lewis machine gun with the internals replaced by a camera - whose use in public places, IIRC, is covered by aspects of current firearms legislation but I can't remember seeing anything about the Photosniper kit.

I suspect that the Terrorism Act(s) are not that specific and are rather more written to allow the authorities to define anything they take a dislike to as contrary to the law. I don't believe the Photosniper outfit is actually illegal but I certainly think that in the current climate of public paranoia using one in a public place would be very unwise...

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Re: Zenith Photosniper [Re: El Sid]
      #708578 - 19/09/2008 10:25

Like Nigel said. You could always try, and let us know what happens - or get your loved ones to do so in the event of the Old Bill giving you a lead enema.

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zx9
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Re: Zenith Photosniper [Re: TimF]
      #709042 - 20/09/2008 14:11

To attract even more attention you could tape a laser pointer to it, and project a little red spot on your targ.... er subject

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Rhys
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Re: Zenith Photosniper [Re: zx9]
      #709949 - 22/09/2008 22:17

There I was sat in the park watching the children running about screaming...



...well, they didn't know I was using blanks did they?...


Guess the same could be said of he photo-sniper, though in nature use it probably wouldn't be frowned upon - say in a hide photographing birds.

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Bazzac



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Re: Zenith Photosniper [Re: Rhys]
      #710576 - 24/09/2008 15:05

Interesting thoughts.

I believe it was that article on the Lewis machine gun adaption. Maybe it was my mind that 'triggered' the idea that the Photosniper would be frowned upon, if not illegal.

Thanks for all your comments.

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Baz FRIPN

Barrianne-Photos


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Bazzac



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Re: Zenith Photosniper [Re: zx9]
      #710577 - 24/09/2008 15:07

Quote:

To attract even more attention you could tape a laser pointer to it, and project a little red spot on your targ.... er subject




Near to where I live there is THE annual World Pea-Shooter championship. Guess what? The champion has done just that. Made an laser sight attachment for it. I suppose some things are just too important.

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Baz FRIPN

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Done&rundleCams
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Re: Zenith Photosniper [Re: Bazzac]
      #710605 - 24/09/2008 16:49

Quote:

Interesting thoughts.

I believe it was that article on the Lewis machine gun adaption. Maybe it was my mind that 'triggered' the idea that the Photosniper would be frowned upon, if not illegal.

Thanks for all your comments.




Hi Baz,

I picked up a PhotoSniper (and all the extra's) several years ago and have, on occasion,
used it with my Pentax DSLR with very good results which, granted, you weren't asking
about, but... As to the legalities and, even though I am in Vancouver, I took it
out to a few events with up to 50K people in attendance and the only police attention it
was received was from officers who were interested in photography and asking the usual
"make/focal length, speed" questions The only people with any "negative-oriented"
comments were from people who should have been more worried about the police presence
rather than my camera and lens(es)

But I would hesitate to take it on any trips where you are going by plane simply because when
going through any x-rays because what you see is quite innocent -- see here:





but here it is as seen by the security/x-ray people:






Cheers and Yep, I flipped the pic ...but purely compositional purposes

Jack

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Edited by Done&rundleCams (24/09/2008 16:52)


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TimF
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Re: Zenith Photosniper [Re: Done&rundleCams]
      #710905 - 25/09/2008 14:37

Certainly looks a little like a "grease gun" sans magazine I must say!!

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Tim BSRIPN


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