Roger_Provins
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If you have a dSLR with live-view do you actually make much use of it?
Was it a factor in your decision to buy the camera?
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daft_biker
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No and no.
I haven't even bothered to try it out....maybe one of these days when I can't reach high enough to see through the viewfinder I could hold the camera at arms length and look at the screen.
Just out of curiosity.....is metering better, worse or no different in liveview?
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NorthernNikon
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If you have a dSLR with live-view do you actually make much use of it?
Was it a factor in your decision to buy the camera?
Yes and No.
Yes I've used it but it wasn't a consideration when I bought my D300, I was purely looking for better AF and high ISO performance over my D70s.
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OneTen
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No, it wasn't a factor in buying the 40D.
I have used it, once. I was trying my FD Autobellows and 20mm Macrophoto lens with an FD/EOS converter. The whole rig was on a tripod and LiveView was useful with this setup. The experience was more frustrating than enjoyable so I'm not sure whether I'll be trying again.
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beejaybee
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The experience was more frustrating than enjoyable so I'm not sure whether I'll be trying again.
Mirrors my experience with Live View, except that I am quite sure I won't be trying it again - not unless the review screen has at least the same resolution as the sensor!
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spangler
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Can't see the point of it myself, a right angled view finder does me for awkward viewpoints.
Andrew
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fivepsaver
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I'd have bought the D300 even if it didn,t have Live View.
I have used Live View but only for the purpose of learning how to use it.
Might come in useful one day,perhaps.
Nig. 
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RogerMac
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It was not a factor when I bought the E510 (IS was the factor that pushed me into that one) but I do use it quite frequently for "over the head" crowd work. Also I am totally addicted to it for all tripod work. It's particularly useful to be able to put a set of grid lines onto the screen and make sure that everything is lined up
In one of the media scrums around an unfortunate celebrity I saw a newsman using articulated live view over the heads of the other togs and he was clearly enjoying a competitive advantage.
Edit: In the old Rolleiflex days did not clever togs turn their cameras upside down and at arms length to get one over their Leica rivals?
Roger
Edited by RogerMac (08/09/2008 20:09)
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AlexMonro
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I saw this thread a couple of times before I remembered that my Fuji S3 does have live view - sort of. It only works for 30 seconds at a time to avoid heating the sensor, it's monochrome only, and you have to go into manual focus to use it.
So no, I don't make much use of it, though it's just possible I might sometime try it for precise manual focus - you can magnify the LCD, if you're quick! And no, it wasn't a factor in my buying decision - in fact, I keep forgetting it's there! (unlike the wide dynamic range! )
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Fen
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If you have a dSLR with live-view do you actually make much use of it?
I used it for the first time the other week at a wedding (I was a guest).
I held the D3 in the air above the heads of all the people dancing and had turned on LiveView so I could what I was pointing the camera at!
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Was it a factor in your decision to buy the camera?
Nope
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Roger_Provins
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Reged: 22/10/2005
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The reason I posed these questions is that the it seems highly likely that the shortly to be released "flagship" Sony a900 will NOT have live view. This is despite the fact that two of Sony's "entry level" models, the a300 and a350, have currently probably the best live-view implementation from any maker.
Bearing in mind what seems to be the consensus from this forum that live-view is not well regarded it will be interesting to read what the reviewers say of its lack in the Sony a900. They marked down the a700 for not having something it seems nobody much wants 
Of course this is all conjecture and I may well have got it wrong and it does have live-view after all
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Edited by Roger_Provins (08/09/2008 21:45)
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fivepsaver
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regarding the Nikon system,would I be right in saying that when shooting in LV handheld, esp above ones head,it would pay to keep the shutter speed as high as possible to compensate a bit for the mirror returning from LV mode.
To minimise blur,esp with non-vr lens.
There would be a longer time from button press to final mirror close in LV mode than normal mode,with same shutter speed. If ya know what I mean.
Nig.
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Fen
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I had Auto-ISO turned on with a high shutter speed set.
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fivepsaver
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If I was using a 50mm normally then going by the rule of thumb I would need about 1/60-1/80 sec. In LV mode would this need to almost be doubled,or am I misunderstanding something. 
Nig.
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OneTen
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Reged: 23/06/2003
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I've just remembered that I've used LV more recently. I read about a setting on the 40D where once in LV mode you can fire the shutter and the mirror doesn't return until you release the shutter button. So by keeping the shutter button pressed the camera is virtually silent until you release the button and the mirror returns. I tried using it for candids, one of Fen and some of randoms on the tube and this and that.
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LargeFormat
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I don't see much point in live view per se but live view with an articulated screen is a much more interesting proposition. I can't see myself holding the camera at arms length when I could look through the viewfinder but for awkward shots and particularly low level shots, from my experience with a bridge, it's invaluable. In the past I had a Miranda with interchangeable, eye leve/waist level, finders, and have always had the angle finder for my OM2s.
For me the lack of a system like that in the a350 is a disappointment in the a900 and will make me look harder at Canon and Nikon. However, mechanically, I don't see how the a350's live view could be adapted to a pentaprism.
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flowbush
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Reged: 09/09/2008
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Hi I dont have live view, but if its anything like the display screen on compacts I wouldnt want it. the deciding factor when I bought my last compact was that it had an optical viewfinder. taking shots in bright sunlight with a digital only viewfinder is a nightmare no matter how much you crank up the brightness control.
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Fen
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Hi I dont have live view, but if its anything like the display screen on compacts I wouldnt want it. the deciding factor when I bought my last compact was that it had an optical viewfinder. taking shots in bright sunlight with a digital only viewfinder is a nightmare no matter how much you crank up the brightness control.
But if it's a 20,000 dot 3-inch VGA LCD monitor with a wide 170-degree viewing angle. 
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numanoid
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I'm a bit confused about Live View. At first I thought, oh that sounds good, thinking that during long exposures the image is displayed live on the screen, or PC monitor etc, but its not that at all from what I can make out from peoples reports.
The screen still goes blank during the exposure, so whats the point?
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Fen
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Why would you want to see the image during exposure?
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