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lisadb
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Closing an image with layers not flattened
      #684316 - 29/07/2008 13:25

Does it matter if I'm working on an image using layers but then close it with the layers not flattened etc so that I can come back to it another day? I know it takes up more memory with the layers left open but it wouldn't be for storage, just a couple of days while I was thinking about things. Thanks Lisa.

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Re: Closing an image with layers not flattened [Re: lisadb]
      #684324 - 29/07/2008 13:37

If I spend any appreciable time working on an image in Elements, or even if I just think I might not be able to easily reproduce what I've done, I always save the image as an unflattened PSD file so that my work remains intact and ready to edit again if necessary. Other, simpler, images I just save as JPEGs.

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Re: Closing an image with layers not flattened [Re: lisadb]
      #684347 - 29/07/2008 14:27

Provided you save it as a PSD file, you will save the layers as well, and can come back to them at a leter date

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Re: Closing an image with layers not flattened [Re: lisadb]
      #684401 - 29/07/2008 15:33

I tend to save all my pix in PSD format complete with all layers. Probably a bit pointless in most cases but on the odd occasion I need to revisit a picture to tweak something I can do it without having to start again. Downside is it eats disc space...

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lisadb
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Re: Closing an image with layers not flattened [Re: El Sid]
      #684485 - 29/07/2008 18:08

Thanks guys you've answered my question wonderfully. Lisa.

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Re: Closing an image with layers not flattened [Re: lisadb]
      #684571 - 29/07/2008 21:04

You can also save from raw as a tif in 16 bit mode, then edit with layers, masks and the like. Saving the tif as an uncompressed file will preserve everything for next time. As the tif is not compressed no data is lost. But the files can become very large.

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Re: Closing an image with layers not flattened [Re: Monobod]
      #693878 - 20/08/2008 22:16

Quote:

You can also save from raw as a tif in 16 bit mode, then edit with layers, masks and the like. Saving the tif as an uncompressed file will preserve everything for next time. As the tif is not compressed no data is lost. But the files can become very large.




Monobod, TIF compression per se wouldn't generate any 'loss' as long as you choose lossless compression (ZIP, LHZ...) when saving the TIF file according to the options offered by the image editor you're using.

What you might have is imcompatibility issues with this or that image viewing/editing program in the future but all the layers, masks, colour information (space and depth) will still be there tomorrow, next year or till the cows come home.

A more serious issue would be the usually large multi-layered image files (not only TIF but also PSD, DNG, etc.) being corrupted thanks to bad disk sectors, failure or physical damage. Since they're quite large files the chance of that happening (as I learned the hard way) is fatter than most people think. The answer to that is naturally backing your data up regularly.

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Re: Closing an image with layers not flattened [Re: Diplopodus]
      #695138 - 23/08/2008 23:54

And using good quality computers, I would think. But nothing beats a backup.

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