Grierson
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Reged: 22/02/2006
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Having invested in the Epson 1900 to replace my aging HP printer I find that the prints are very dark. There seems to be lots of comments on other forums relating to the issue but I havn't seen any overall answer. I wonder if any member with a 1900 has had similar prolems and has come up with a solution. (I print from Photoshop and prints to the old printer are OK.) Thanks - John.
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parisian
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Loc: Môn mam cymru
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Monitor / printer calibrated and papers profiled?
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Grierson
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Yes, recalibrated the monitor and I'm using Epson Premium Glossy paper with the Epson interface set to Premium Glossy.
Not sure how to calibrate the printer though. The manual on the disc is a bit convoluted. - John
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Norman
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What software package are you printing from? Make sure you have selected 'let printer manage colours' if printing with Photoshop. If you have Photoshop manage colours you MUST select 'No ICM' in the Epson print dialog, otherwise you will 'double profile'.
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Grierson
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Thanks for the response Norman. I have now found that if the 'Let the printer manage the colours' dialogue is activated in CS3 the print is fine. I have clearly got much to learn about printer profiling. John
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Gordon_McGeachie
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I have never calibrated my printer, what I have done is to download a calibration print from the web and printed it out.
Everything looked as it should be and I just altered my screen by hand to match.
No need for expensive hardware/software
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Grierson
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Thnaks for that Gordon, I'll give it a try - John
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Gordon_McGeachie
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For printing I use Picassa, photoshop and the software that came with my Canon printer, having said that, I ONLY use genuine Canon ink and paper, which makes life easier anyway.
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Seven..
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Reged: 03/02/2003
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Not an expert or anything but I was under the impression calibrating only helps out with colour it doesn't with dark and light, so what I was advised which works for me I do a last levels and alter midtone to 1.20. I have the 1800 and this works for me re dark prints.
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Tanya(BSRIPN)
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Monobod
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Generally speaking, if your monitor is calibrated and you are working in the correct colour space with the camera, screen and print driver the only thing necessary to do with the printer is to use the correct profile for the paper. That is providing the manufacturers ink is also used. The driver profiles are set up to give correct results when used with the correct materials.
Where things can go adrift is when one or more of these links in the chain is incompatible with the rest of them.
After a lot of costly experiments, I have decided to stick to Epson ink and paper and to use the Epson profiles, allowing the printer to determine the colours. This works best for me, at least.
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Seven..
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I think a TFT monitor doesn't help re prints being darker as they always look a lot brighter on screen
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Tanya(BSRIPN)
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Grierson
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Reged: 22/02/2006
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Loc: York, England
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Thanks all for the further comments. As I indicated above I have now set 'the printer to manage the colours' rather than 'Photoshop to manage the colours' in the CS3 Print dialogue interface and that seems to have done the trick.
I have scoured the manual carefully and there does not seem to be a way to change the printer profile. The only relevant statement is that 'the printer will automatically adjust to the paper being used'. (Providing you tell it what kind of Epson paper is loaded and presumably that Epson inks are installed) Having said that the CD based manual is dissapointing to say the least! John
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Monobod
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When you select the paper type for an Epson printer, you are in fact loading the profile for that paper. So you do not need to do anything else.
Tanya is correct in saying thet images on the screen look brighter than the print. This is always the case because the screen is backlit and the print is showing reflected light. To see your prints at their best, take them into the garden on a sunny day!
Wha is important to get right is the tones of the colurs and the relative levels of contrast. If a flower on screen looks orange but looks red on the print, something is wrong.
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Grierson
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Reged: 22/02/2006
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Loc: York, England
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Many thanks David - Understood - John
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