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Paul_M
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Metering methods
      #655986 - 16/05/2008 19:27

So, I've just received the marks for module 1 (thanks for the comments Scott, very useful) and I've started module 2.

One bit caught my eye though - the bit about reflected light metering being fatally flawed as it is affected by the colour / texture of the subject.

I assumed that as we see a scene in the same way (light reflected from the subject), then this would give the better results.

Obviously I'm wrong as otherwise nobody would use incident light meters, but I don't understand why I'm wrong.

Any thoughts?

Paul

P.s. Sorry if this appears twice, I posted it once and didn't see the first one.

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Matt_Hunt
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Re: Metering methods [Re: Paul_M]
      #656031 - 16/05/2008 21:15

Hi

I could be wrong but I think the eye and brain tend to 'colour correct' scenes whereas film or sensors record purely what they see.

Crudely, we tend not see indoors light as yellow-ish, but daylight balanced film (or daylight white balance) shows it up.

Therefore an incident meter reading removes the impact of colour and texture - and the brains ability to work around mistakes.

Of course I could be spouting cobblers!

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Garry McNamara
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Re: Metering methods [Re: Matt_Hunt]
      #656100 - 17/05/2008 08:39

No Matt not sprouts or cob nuts - quite right!

Incident light metering simply measures the light falling on a subject rather than reflected from it. So, as you say, it is not influenced by the tone of the subject.

Apart from one example produced by Minolta quite a few years back it's not as far as I know a metering method that any consumer camera manufacturer has offered. There are attachments for your lens but they are inconvenient compared to an actual meter. Meters are not expensive, a pittance compared to what you'll spend on your next DSLR, and of course will last you a lifetime. Like that other thing you should buy a good one of, the tripod, it will not be superseded in a years time!

It's still the preferred method of pros in the studio and once you are used to it is probably the most reliable - the skill is knowing where to position the receptor.

It doesn't give you correct white balance though, a couple of people have suggested this to me recently - that is still down matching film type/filtration or white balance to the light source.


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Paul_M
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Re: Metering methods [Re: Garry McNamara]
      #656360 - 18/05/2008 09:03

Thanks guys.

I knew our eyes were good at correcting white balance, but didn't realise exposure was an issue too.

No doubt it will all become clear when I venture out and start doing the practical exercises.

Paul

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Azzi
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Re: Metering methods [Re: Paul_M]
      #656664 - 19/05/2008 10:13

On reading the above posts I feel a bit more comfortable in "coming out" at last!
A couple of months ago I picked up an old light meter. I kept it a secret at first, only using it in private, affraid of being ridiculed by the digital community. The problem was, I`ve found it to be useful - and dare I say it.... more reliable than the cameras built in meter! I felt that I had to be wrong, but time and time again I seem to get better exposure with the meter. I`m also starting to guess the conditions more accurately - surely this can`t be healthy....
Chris
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