TarquinBiscuit
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FTR, I'm no lover of EF-S at all, just I can see why they've done it.
I think I know what FTR means, but have ANBI (Absolutely No Bl**dy Idea) what an EF-S is. Should I have one? Am I missing something? 
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El Sid
Going potty
Reged: 14/04/2003
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FTR, I'm no lover of EF-S at all, just I can see why they've done it.
I think I know what FTR means, but have ANBI (Absolutely No Bl**dy Idea) what an EF-S is. Should I have one?
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Am I missing something?
Oh yes..................... 
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Nigel
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ElSid Gallery
A camera in the hand is better than one in the cupboard........
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BigWill
Oversensitive Jessie
Reged: 08/09/2000
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Loc: Northern Ireland
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FTR, I'm no lover of EF-S at all, just I can see why they've done it.
I think I know what FTR means, but have ANBI (Absolutely No Bl**dy Idea) what an EF-S is. Should I have one? Am I missing something?
EF-S, it stands for "Extra Fangs-Spare" Clive and yes you do need them just in case you happen to chip a tooth some night on a virgin with an extremely tough neck! 
BigWill
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Adesw
The phantom flasher
Reged: 07/02/2008
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With all the discussion anout mirrors I wondered why the mirror has to go down every frame when shooting at stupid fps.
I havent used a D3 or the canon equiv, but I can just picture looking through the viewfinder when firing it off at 11fps. Does it have an epilepsy warning?
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huwevans
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With all the discussion anout mirrors I wondered why the mirror has to go down every frame when shooting at stupid fps.
I'm not sure what's stupid about the frame rates. However, if the mirror didn't return you would just have a blacked out viewfinder. Mirror-return enables you to continue to follow the action during a burst and keep it framed as you want it. It also enables the autofocus and exposure to be updated during the burst. I think the D3 needs to be operating at 9fps or less for that, though.
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Adesw
The phantom flasher
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I use the word stupid out of context alot.
Like if I have to get up before 7 I usually call it stupid o clock. so I just mean as in really high.
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NorthernNikon
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I tink it's a yout' ting innit.
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El Sid
Going potty
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Like if I have to get up before 7 I usually call it stupid o clock.
But any time before 7am is stupid o'clock!........... probably why I'll never be a landscape photographer.......
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Nigel
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ElSid Gallery
A camera in the hand is better than one in the cupboard........
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huwevans
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I use the word stupid out of context alot. ... so I just mean as in really high.
Ah - as in, 'about time we threw out that gorgonzola - it's getting really stupid', or, 'that Mount Everest - a bit stupid or what?' ;-)
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NorthernNikon
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I use the word stupid out of context alot. ... so I just mean as in really high.
Ah - as in, 'about time we threw out that gorgonzola - it's getting really stupid', or, 'that Mount Everest - a bit stupid or what?' ;-)
Or 'Man, that skunk's strong, just one spliff and I got so stupid.'
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NorthernNikon
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I use the word stupid out of context alot. ... so I just mean as in really high.
Ah - as in, 'about time we threw out that gorgonzola - it's getting really stupid', or, 'that Mount Everest - a bit stupid or what?' ;-)
Or 'Man, that skunk's strong, just one spliff and I got so stupid.'
Aah, I've got it! It comes from HDR! To be known henceforth as SDR!
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huwevans
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Aah, I've got it! It comes from HDR! To be known henceforth as SDR!
Joking apart, that actually could catch on! :-)
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NorthernNikon
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Aah, I've got it! It comes from HDR! To be known henceforth as SDR!
Joking apart, that actually could catch on! :-)
Who says I was joking? Did you see a smilie?
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Adesw
The phantom flasher
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ah, but it would only be SDR if it was over done.
So that would mean that HDR, rather then being an overused technique, would be a very rare sight done by masters of their art. While the other 99.9% of the images would be SDR
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NorthernNikon
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So that would mean that HDR, rather then being an overused technique, would be a very rare sight done by masters of their art. While the other 99.9% of the images would be SDR
You're being generous with the 0.1%
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TimF
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Reged: 30/07/2001
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I wonder if all this noise is due to the number chasing obsession with machine gun frame rates?
Very likely. It always makes me laugh when I see some press wallah firing off at maximum frame rate even if the guy he's shooting is just standing there talking to somebody!
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The camera makes everyone a tourist in other people's reality, and eventually in one's own - Susan Sontag
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huwevans
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I wonder if all this noise is due to the number chasing obsession with machine gun frame rates?
Very likely. It always makes me laugh when I see some press wallah firing off at maximum frame rate even if the guy he's shooting is just standing there talking to somebody!
A perfectly sensible approach - anyone who photographs people or animals will know how easy it is to get an unusable shot because someone blinked at the moment of firing. Multiple frames improves the likelihood of getting the required shot. It's a simple matter of doing what's necessary to ensure the end result.
Further to that, press snappers tend to wait for particularly expressive gestures - hand movements, facial expressions, and so on. The latter especially can be extremely fleeting, and the face changes dramatically during the course of the expression forming. Again, a fast frame rate catches all sorts of things that with the naked eye we don't even notice. Sometimes those are the very shots that make it onto the front pages. I believe some press togs have even abandoned the still camera altogether in favour of digital video, as the resolution of that has improved enough for them to be able simply to select out just the right individual frame from the 'continuous' footage.
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