James_Allman
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Reged: 28/10/2007
Posts: 10
Loc: London
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Hi all
Just wanted to see if anyone else has made any in roads on module 2 of the course? Must admit I've been lacking the motivation and inspiration lately...
How is everyone else getting on??
James 
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GDN
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Reged: 05/02/2008
Posts: 515
Loc: Surrey
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I've got my black image, got the white image... I'm struggling with grey (I guess I could just take one outside...)
Taken numerous 'scenes' however I'm just not really satisfied with them... So going back to the drawing board with them..
Motivation is there but the weather hasn't been brilliant...
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Northerner
enthusiast
Reged: 23/01/2006
Posts: 329
Loc: Sydney, Oz (ex. Manchester)
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I'm in the same boat. I've got a few images but not really happy with any of them - it's a tough job trying to find black and white things of interest - and then there's grey!
Graham
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robgodd
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Reged: 22/01/2008
Posts: 14
Loc: Stourbridge, West Mids.
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Glad I'm not the only one! Black, white and grey images - that are interesting??
I've found that buying a new camera helps with the motivation  , but I'm struggling with the assignment.
We'll get there eventually.
Rob
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GDN
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Reged: 05/02/2008
Posts: 515
Loc: Surrey
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Oh, my black and white images aren't 'interesting' and I'm sure that obtaining the full 4 marks for the image will be extremely difficult on this module...
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johnelvy
Reged: 24/03/2002
Posts: 78
Loc: Hertfordshire
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I have really been struggling with the black and white images - I can't find something that inspires me - I know the idea is to learn about how camera meters expose black and white but it would still be nice to submit something interesting...
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GDN
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Reged: 05/02/2008
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Loc: Surrey
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We'll I've gone macro (or at least close-up) to try to get an interesting image...
I fully understand what the module is trying to get you to do, and in someways it has as I now have a set process with my new camera setting white Balance, Iso, etc before shooting now...  BUT I can't find a decent grey anywhere... 
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munro
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Reged: 17/01/2008
Posts: 12
Loc: Cumbria
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I finally completed module 2 on Friday and it is now in the post. Like everyone else I found it difficult to find inspiring images but I think I found some in the end. Lots of useful learning points from this module about how my camera performs.
Hopefully I will get time to post images on my Flickr in next few days.
George
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Scott_Lewis
tutor
Reged: 08/06/2006
Posts: 39
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Hi all,
Road and path surfaces are often different shades of grey, so maybe you could make a study of road markings or pavement furniture? As pointed out earlier - the sky can be grey - as can the sea or any reflecting pool of water under said sky; stonework too can be fairly grey - so can architecture and metal surfaces. Hair can be grey, both human and non-human. Tree bark can appear colourless and almost silvery - and you also have the bonus of nice textures too! Balls of wool and yarns of cotton come in all shades - one of which is grey! In other words there's loads out there if you reasses what might constituent an interesting subject. I think another opportunity here is to think about the set as a whole. Try to find a common theme to link the three shots.
Best of luck - can't wait to see what you come up with!
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GDN
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Loc: Surrey
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Try to find a common theme to link the three shots.
Now thats changing the goal posts....
How about 'digital images taken on a pentax camera' for a common theme...? 
Anyway on my way home from work tonight I had a 'black' cat cross my path across a 'grey' footpath. The cat then turned and looked at me and it had 'white' eyes... spooky. Still can't find interesting images anywhere tho....
*NB.. please take this with a very large pinch of salt...
/GDN goes to take some photographs of some grey pebbles he's just 'borrowed' from next doors back garden...
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Scott_Lewis
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Reged: 08/06/2006
Posts: 39
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One of the most interesting and effective interpretations of this exercise that I have marked involved a common theme of faces. The faces of statues to be exact. Each was made out of a differently coloured material - one white, one grey and one black. The three shots fulfilled the needs of the exercise brilliantly, were attractive in their own right and also showed that the student had really thought about how the shots would fit together. That said, the brief does not mention anything about creating a common theme. Personally I do think it's a neat solution though - one that makes it easier to find your three objects.
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GDN
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Loc: Surrey
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Personally I do think it's a neat solution though - one that makes it easier to find your three objects.....
... if you live near a black, white and grey statue... 
Hehe Thanks for the advice Scott. I'm still not happy my images but I'm sure that I'll get some I'm happy with sooner rather than later...
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gollum
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Reged: 18/12/2007
Posts: 114
Loc: Kent
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Quote:
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Try to find a common theme to link the three shots.
Now thats changing the goal posts....
How about 'digital images taken on a pentax camera' for a common theme...?
Like it....
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People too weak to follow their own dreams, will always find a way to discourage yours
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robgodd
newbie
Reged: 22/01/2008
Posts: 14
Loc: Stourbridge, West Mids.
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Scott, your advice to perhaps think about themes got me thinking - and 'musical' inspiration struck! I know what I'm going to do now, and may even complete it this weekend. Just what I needed. Thanks!
Rob
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Scott_Lewis
tutor
Reged: 08/06/2006
Posts: 39
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Glad to be of service! Good luck with that module.
Scott
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Azzi
member
Reged: 08/05/2006
Posts: 152
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Hi everyone,
I haven`t checked the forum for weeks so it`s interesting to see how people are getting on.
Well I have completed Mod 2 - I think! I had no problem with inspiration but I am a little confused with the number of images required for part 2 and 3. Basically you shoot the same scene a number of times using different exposure readings - no problem. However it appears that you meter the same scene using a Grey card for parts 2 and 3 - no problem. However given that I shot the same scene in constant lighting conditions, nothing has changed, so I will be submitting two images (metered with the grey card) which are identical. Any thoughts?
Thanks,
Chris
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Matt_Hunt
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Reged: 07/11/2005
Posts: 2222
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Hi. When you measure the exposure for a scene using the camera's meter and it 'sees' the light reflected from the trees, grass sky etc etc.
The meter then tries to expose for this using 18% gray as a reference point. Anything which has a tone darker than 18% gray will be slightly overexposed because to the camera's and anything over 18% gray will be underexposed.
Now, take the same scene, but put the camera in manual. take a light meter reading from your 18% gray card. Because the camera's meter is looking at an 18% gray object and has 18% gray as its reference point there will be no underexposure or overexposure in compensation. So now black will appear black and white will be white.
For example, take a piece of white card, your gray card and some black card. Lay them on some grass, meter from them and look at the pictures. The white card should appear light gray, the black card will be a dark gray or off-black and the gray card is gray. Now do the same but using the manual meter reading from the gray card on each. You ought to get white = white and black = black.
Hope that made sense.
Matt
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Azzi
member
Reged: 08/05/2006
Posts: 152
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Thanks for the reply Matt,
I understand how the grey card "works", It is just the point that I will be submitting two images which are essentially identical, one for part 2, the other for part 3.
I guess that isn`t really a problem.
Chris
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Garry McNamara
Snr Tutor/Bongo Banjo
Reged: 16/08/2006
Posts: 2019
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Hiya, yes that does seem odd but it is just there for consistency’s sake - and it also helps if the light had changed between the two sets of shots.
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Azzi
member
Reged: 08/05/2006
Posts: 152
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My busiest day ever on the forum - and it works - almost instant replies!
Thanks for the confirmation Garry - no problem, I can cope with odd...in fact I prefer odd.
You`ll be hearing from me soon.
Chris
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