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FUJI'S MEDIUM FORMAT FOLDER - YOU WANT ONE?
      #615764 - 23/02/2008 10:25

Do you think Fuji should launch the medium format folder shown at PMA? Read more about it in The Informer free with this week's issue, and then vote here.

Is a new medium format folder a good idea, and do you think there is still a market for a small 6x7cm body?

Thanks for playing

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Re: Fuji's medium format folder - You want one? [Re: Damien Demolder]
      #615777 - 23/02/2008 10:57

No thank you, I have for some years found difficulty in getting film processed and now that Metro have moved away from the West End I have no preferred lab anywhere near by. The idea is appealing but in practice it wouldn't get used.

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Re: Fuji's medium format folder - You want one? [Re: GeoffR]
      #615788 - 23/02/2008 11:29

Absolutely yes. It's exactly the kind of camera I want, the only competition (and I know it's a different proposition entirely) being a Mamiya 7. I want a good, reliable, 6x7 format camera which doesn't require regular gym sessions to carry across country, something which can be a travelling companion without drawing huge amounts of attention.

My only wish is that they price it sensibly, and not do a Nikon S3/SP replica type thing, where it was hugely expensive and available in limited numbers only to be snapped up by collectors, leaving your working class togs like me feeling somewhat left out.

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Re: Fuji's medium format folder - You want one? [Re: Zou]
      #615821 - 23/02/2008 12:23

I agree entirely with Zou, at the right price I would buy one.

You can't beat a larger negative for quality and the portability of this folder makes it very appealing. I have considered buying a vintage folder and might still do so, but the idea of a good modern lens and fully reliable set of bellows is too good to miss - provided that it does not cost an arm and a leg

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Re: FUJI'S MEDIUM FORMAT FOLDER - YOU WANT ONE? [Re: Damien Demolder]
      #615827 - 23/02/2008 12:39

Yup, me too.

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Re: Fuji's medium format folder - You want one? [Re: Wheelu]
      #615850 - 23/02/2008 14:10

Quote:

I agree entirely with Zou, at the right price I would buy one.

You can't beat a larger negative for quality




AP would appear to disagree, given the Canon 1Ds Mk3's place compared to 120 film in its review on Feb 2nd...

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Re: Fuji's medium format folder - You want one? [Re: davidh]
      #615856 - 23/02/2008 14:37

Quote:

Quote:

I agree entirely with Zou, at the right price I would buy one.

You can't beat a larger negative for quality




AP would appear to disagree, given the Canon 1Ds Mk3's place compared to 120 film in its review on Feb 2nd...




Interestingly, one of the reasons Fuji is thinking of launching it is because they think (MF) film is still better than digital photography. Well, that's what the project manager said anyway. Different qualities, I suppose, rather than necessarily better.

Do you think they should go for the standard lens or the wide?

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Re: Fuji's medium format folder - You want one? [Re: Damien Demolder]
      #615871 - 23/02/2008 15:23

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

I agree entirely with Zou, at the right price I would buy one.

You can't beat a larger negative for quality




AP would appear to disagree, given the Canon 1Ds Mk3's place compared to 120 film in its review on Feb 2nd...




Interestingly, one of the reasons Fuji is thinking of launching it is because they think (MF) film is still better than digital photography. Well, that's what the project manager said anyway. Different qualities, I suppose, rather than necessarily better.

Do you think they should go for the standard lens or the wide?




What's a 1Ds cost? About £6k? You can buy and process a lot of 120 film for that. At, say, £1 per shot including processing (and postage to a lab) it would take a while to equal the spend. Especially as the format discourages the machine gun approach.

Wide lens.

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Re: Fuji's medium format folder - You want one? [Re: Damien Demolder]
      #615872 - 23/02/2008 15:23

I'd like a black one please. I'd much prefer a 65mm lens for 6x7, on the Mamiya 7 I used that focal length far more than the 50mm and 80mm lenses. As others have said, the price would have to be right.

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Re: Fuji's medium format folder - You want one? [Re: Damien Demolder]
      #615874 - 23/02/2008 15:29

I'd buy if the price is not excessive.

Quote:

Different qualities, I suppose, rather than necessarily better.




Exactly, and if you prefer those qualities (as I do) then that makes it better - if you don't, stick to pixels


Quote:

Do you think they should go for the standard lens or the wide?




Wide

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Re: FUJI'S MEDIUM FORMAT FOLDER - YOU WANT ONE? [Re: Damien Demolder]
      #615877 - 23/02/2008 15:33

No.

I don't hold with these new-fangled contraptions.

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Re: FUJI'S MEDIUM FORMAT FOLDER - YOU WANT ONE? [Re: Damien Demolder]
      #615885 - 23/02/2008 15:57

Little interest for me. The amount of these they're likely to shift will mean the price will be too high. A second hand bargain is much more appealing.

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Re: FUJI'S MEDIUM FORMAT FOLDER - YOU WANT ONE? [Re: Hopeless_Andy]
      #615939 - 23/02/2008 18:26

Where do I sign up? I'll definately be buying one.

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Re: FUJI'S MEDIUM FORMAT FOLDER - YOU WANT ONE? [Re: Hopeless_Andy]
      #615943 - 23/02/2008 18:32

Love the idea but I agree with this as a sentiment.

Quote:

The amount of these they're likely to shift will mean the price will be too high.




What do people think a reasonable price would be..?

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Re: FUJI'S MEDIUM FORMAT FOLDER - YOU WANT ONE? [Re: Damien Demolder]
      #615944 - 23/02/2008 18:32

I'll test it for you as soon as you get hold of one.

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Re: FUJI'S MEDIUM FORMAT FOLDER - YOU WANT ONE? [Re: Lounge Lizard]
      #615951 - 23/02/2008 18:47

Quote:

I'll test it for you as soon as you get hold of one.




You'd be lucky to get it out of my hands, you Lizard you

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Re: FUJI'S MEDIUM FORMAT FOLDER - YOU WANT ONE? [Re: Damien Demolder]
      #615959 - 23/02/2008 19:05

50mm, please!

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Re: Fuji's medium format folder - You want one? [Re: Damien Demolder]
      #616032 - 23/02/2008 20:56

Why have Fuji created the prototype of a very 'retro' camera? Is it:

* pure marketing hype - "Hey, we are still here"
* a niche-marketed cash-cow for rich Japanese collectors
* an oblique pitch for a bigger market share in film (competing more strongly with Kodak) hence:
* a serious attempt at securing some additional film sales, while people are still interested, etc
* senior executives nostalgia/menopause/senior moment
* the techies had some spare time on their hands
* R&D is tax-deductable in Japan
* someone found some 40-year old blueprints and decided to have a mess around wi' them
* it's mid-April in Japan already, and the announcement was at the start of the month
* ...

If it's gonna be a well-made metal camera, not a collectible 'toy', and at a sensible price, I'd buy one.

I'd prefer a slightly wideangle lens, say 60-65mm. It all depends on the lens type: a f3.5 bellows mounted lens suggests a 'simple' Tessar type - not great as wide angles. Also, it has to perform at least as well as a Super Ikonta for it to be a camera worthy of serious consideration

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Re: Fuji's medium format folder - You want one? [Re: Tacitus]
      #616044 - 23/02/2008 21:09

Well maybe its a bit of everything. Fujifilm was the one to sponsor (or started) the choose-film.com initiative and I think it is in their interest to keep film alive as much as it is in the interest of the still great numbers of photographers who want to use film. We have seen many good work from photographers down at Choose-Film and the latest photos of Lindsay Lohan as Marylin Monroe prove that film still has a lot to give. I for one believe that if those frames were shot in digital they would have looked very flat in comparison. I had lots of my colleagues guessing at what digital camera was used for the shoot "because of the quality", but no one even hinted for a fraction of a second of film. They were all shocked to find that it was all shot on film.

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Re: Fuji's medium format folder - You want one? [Re: Damien Demolder]
      #616056 - 23/02/2008 21:28

It appears to have an 80mm f3.5 lens which is approximately equivalent to a 40mm lens on a 35mm camera. That's fine by me

Re what price is reasonable - well that depends upon whether or not Canon can get their act together and produce a well specified 5D mark 2 for around £1300. If they do I won't have any spare cash, but if they don't.......

£350 perhaps.

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