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ste



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what 'small' size paper best fits 35mm?
      #602638 - 28/01/2008 10:35

can anyone tell me which size darkroom paper is a better 'fit' for 35mm - 3 1/5 by 5in or 3 1/2 by 5 1/5?

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Re: what 'small' size paper best fits 35mm? [Re: ste]
      #602640 - 28/01/2008 10:38

Neither - it's bang in the middle of the two - 3.5x 5.25.

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ste



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Re: what 'small' size paper best fits 35mm? [Re: Benchista]
      #602646 - 28/01/2008 10:47

superb cheers. what ratio is 35mm then? how do i work it out in future if i'm buying paper? cheers for all this btw

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Re: what 'small' size paper best fits 35mm? [Re: ste]
      #602660 - 28/01/2008 11:10

35 mm is in aspect ratio 3:2 - so longest size half as large again as smallest size, e.g., 12 x 8,9 x 6, 6 x 4.

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Re: what 'small' size paper best fits 35mm? [Re: Benchista]
      #602795 - 28/01/2008 13:16

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Neither - it's bang in the middle of the two - 3.5x 5.25.



You're right, of course, but in practise a little bit is lost from the top bottom and side edges. Since this framing margin is about the same the aspect ratio of the film area you're printing is a little more than 3:2 i.e. 5.5 x 3.5 paper will fit better than 5.0 x 3.5.

I haven't bought small size photographic (wet process) paper for a good few years, but I must say I'm rather surprised it isn't sold as either 15x10 cm or 6x4 inch these days.


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Re: what 'small' size paper best fits 35mm? [Re: beejaybee]
      #602802 - 28/01/2008 13:22

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I haven't bought small size photographic (wet process) paper for a good few years, but I must say I'm rather surprised it isn't sold as either 15x10 cm or 6x4 inch these days.




You can buy it as 3.5 x 5.5 or as 6x4. I only ever buy the 6x4 or 7x5 for small prints. It's not worth the hassle to print anything smaller


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Re: what 'small' size paper best fits 35mm? [Re: beejaybee]
      #603114 - 28/01/2008 22:21

True, and it's better to trim the larger size if you have to, IMHO.

I remember that my first box of paper was 5x3.5 Grade 0 - it was cheap. Can't remember what the hell it was, though!

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Re: what 'small' size paper best fits 35mm? [Re: Benchista]
      #603541 - 29/01/2008 18:57

It often seems to be little (if any) cheaper to buy small sizes that 8x10, so I tend to buy 8x10 and (on the odd occasions I want a little print) cut it into two 8x5s with a rotary trimmer. If I want an even smaller picture, I just leave a wide margin and trim it off later.

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Re: what 'small' size paper best fits 35mm? [Re: ste]
      #615884 - 23/02/2008 15:56

There's also the question of how do you want to border the print...

...some think borders don't matter since you can always frame with suitable bordering later - but I believe the frame + matt should be a bridge between the picture and the space it hangs so the Matt + Framing is decided later when the picture is hung; you still need to think about bordering.

Often of course you don't border the print at all if you are using a Matt in the frame - but you might, and you can, add borders.

The borders need not be equal all around so this might mean a very different shape of paper to shape of image.

I pretty much find printing on larger paper gives plenty of options for bordering and selecting image size.

I'm not sure how many people will agree with me here!! But the placement of the image on the paper is, I think, really important...

If you're interested take a look at: Article on Image Bordering

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Re: what 'small' size paper best fits 35mm? [Re: AntSmith]
      #615933 - 23/02/2008 18:16

Interesting point, I like to put a one inch border round large prints of, say, A3.

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