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Garfield
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Pronunciation
      #589833 - 02/01/2008 14:55

Simple question time:

Is Leica pronounced "like-a" or "lay-ka"?

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Re: Pronunciation [Re: Garfield]
      #589845 - 02/01/2008 15:14

I'd Like-A Leica

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Garfield
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Re: Pronunciation [Re: Fen]
      #589848 - 02/01/2008 15:20

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I'd Like-A Leica




Aha! Just as I thought. It's one of those names where you have to know how it's pronounced and many people assume everyone else knows...

Thanks

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LargeFormat
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Re: Pronunciation [Re: Garfield]
      #590380 - 03/01/2008 15:02

Did you think it might be "lay-ka" because it's an aristocratic camera?

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Tacitus
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Re: Pronunciation [Re: LargeFormat]
      #590646 - 03/01/2008 21:50

My German-speaking Austrian friends pronounce the 'ei' as a very short 'Iyi' - Leye-ica ... In most German words was once deemed correct to (at least attempt to) pronounce every letter ... Invariably easier said than done: such 'old' standards are fast disappearing and can now sound rather quaint. .T.

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Garfield
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Re: Pronunciation [Re: LargeFormat]
      #590658 - 03/01/2008 22:12

Quote:

Did you think it might be "lay-ka" because it's an aristocratic camera?




Kind of, yeah. A terrible thing to think, but similar things are not unheard of.

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Tacitus
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Re: Pronunciation [Re: Garfield]
      #590669 - 03/01/2008 22:23

I'm always amused by the twerps who pronounce Nikon "Neye-kon". I understand that in Japanese, vowels are all short: hence Sony shouldn't be So-nee .... ?

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Re: Pronunciation [Re: Garfield]
      #590789 - 04/01/2008 10:16

Quote:

Simple question time:

Is Leica pronounced "like-a" or "lay-ka"?



Yep, like the unfortunate little dog the Russkies sent into space way back.

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Zou
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Re: Pronunciation [Re: Tacitus]
      #590899 - 04/01/2008 12:54

Quote:

I'm always amused by the twerps who pronounce Nikon "Neye-kon". I understand that in Japanese, vowels are all short: hence Sony shouldn't be So-nee .... ?




It's written as ソニー (you might need Japanese language support on your browser to see that). Basically, it is soni- (the hyphen extends the sound). Whilst Japanese is based on 5 short sounds, the possibilities for extension mean most things are pronounceable to the Japanese, except French You really do need to hear a Japanese say "Bonjour monsieur, je voudrais deux croissants." (Something like bon.jew.ru mon.sha, je boo.dray du coo.roe.wassan)

Edit: it didn't like the Japanese. Oh well.

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Re: Pronunciation [Re: Zou]
      #590905 - 04/01/2008 12:59

Quote:

Quote:

I'm always amused by the twerps who pronounce Nikon "Neye-kon". I understand that in Japanese, vowels are all short: hence Sony shouldn't be So-nee .... ?




It's written as ソニー (you might need Japanese language support on your browser to see that). Basically, it is soni- (the hyphen extends the sound). Whilst Japanese is based on 5 short sounds, the possibilities for extension mean most things are pronounceable to the Japanese, except French You really do need to hear a Japanese say "Bonjour monsieur, je voudrais deux croissants." (Something like bon.jew.ru mon.sha, je boo.dray du coo.roe.wassan)

Edit: it didn't like the Japanese. Oh well.




Most Brits speak French like that, if at all...

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Zou
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Re: Pronunciation [Re: Benchista]
      #590911 - 04/01/2008 13:08

I thought the GCSE French syllabus merely covered raising your voice, slowing the delivery, and repeating again in English?

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Re: Pronunciation [Re: Benchista]
      #590932 - 04/01/2008 13:22

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Most Brits speak French like that...



You do if you're from Lancashire

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Re: Pronunciation [Re: OneTen]
      #591209 - 04/01/2008 20:24

Quote:

Quote:

Most Brits speak French like that...



You do if you're from Lancashire




As someone who is Lancashire born, that remark was very true back in the 1940s and 50s. We really were a very insular lot, and I'm very thankful that the university entrance exam didn't include me struggling to speak any French!
Somehow I knew just enough to get through the written paper.

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Re: Pronunciation [Re: Tacitus]
      #591277 - 04/01/2008 22:30

Quote:

My German-speaking Austrian friends pronounce the 'ei' as a very short 'Iyi' - Leye-ica ... In most German words was once deemed correct to (at least attempt to) pronounce every letter ... Invariably easier said than done: such 'old' standards are fast disappearing and can now sound rather quaint. .T.




I was carrying my M6 round my neck on a trip to the Black Forest last October and a German said something to me about the camera. I think that's how he pronounced it - we certainly struggled to communicate but in the end I gathered he had owned an M3 since new and wanted my opion on the M6.


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Re: Pronunciation [Re: mike_j]
      #591449 - 05/01/2008 13:36

If you think Leica is tricky to pronounce, try Voightländer. My German in laws pronounce it fucklender, and don't seem to be winding me up

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Re: Pronunciation [Re: Woolliscroft]
      #591772 - 06/01/2008 12:11

I'd say fote (like vote, but with a f and a slightly longer o) lender. Surely that's good enough?

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Re: Pronunciation [Re: Zou]
      #591845 - 06/01/2008 15:21

It helps to spell it correctly in the first place - it's "Voigtländer" and pronounced "foikt-lender" with the emphasis on the first syllable.

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Re: Pronunciation [Re: Woolliscroft]
      #592051 - 06/01/2008 21:35

Quote:

If you think Leica is tricky to pronounce, try Voightländer. My German in laws pronounce it fucklender, and don't seem to be winding me up




Oh no, not again!

Leica is pronounced lie-kah with stress on the first syllable.

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Re: Pronunciation [Re: Bettina]
      #592062 - 06/01/2008 22:15

While we're on the subject, a final "e" in German is pronounced as a separate syllable, so when you hear some prat talking down the pub about what his "porsh" will do, you can interrupt him and tell him, actually, it's "porsh-er".

And of course, the German maker of kitchen gizmos, electric toothbrushes and alarm clocks is NOT "brawn". It's "brown".

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Zou
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Re: Pronunciation [Re: Mark_Norton]
      #592153 - 07/01/2008 09:41

Quote:

While we're on the subject, a final "e" in German is pronounced as a separate syllable, so when you hear some prat talking down the pub about what his "porsh" will do, you can interrupt him and tell him, actually, it's "porsh-er".

And of course, the German maker of kitchen gizmos, electric toothbrushes and alarm clocks is NOT "brawn". It's "brown".




Indeed. Braun don't do themselves any favours though by saying 'brawn' on their commercials in the UK. In Japan they say 'Brown' - obviously they know how thick most Brits are with languages.

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