ermintrude
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I have yet to get round to even taking a picture  Oh well, Im planning on doing lots tomorrow, people watching/betting on the National, the pub, the bookies etc. 
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ermintrude
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Elenydd - there's an extremely good beer shop just up that road to the right you know  
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Rustyknight
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Reged: 06/09/2006
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What a cracking shot this is from Ian_A! 
Wonderfully colourful and busy background; sharp enough to "know" what that guy is thinking; and the woman is blurred enough to make you want to see more of her!
P'raps it could be used for a caption comp, sometime in the future.....
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Eru
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Reged: 05/08/2006
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Ian A, I just wanted to say that is a fantastic shot, I hope it is recognised at the end of the month.
Rather better than the 'damn tourist getting in the way of the stone lion shot' I have been considering.
Edited by Eru (17/04/2007 18:14)
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Ian_A
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the woman is blurred enough to make you want to see more of her!
If you ever get to meet her, you'll realise it was an act of kindness to blur her features!
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Ian_A
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Rather better than the 'damn tourist getting in the way of the stone lion shot' I have been considering.
There's time yet, so get out there and shoot some more.
I'll be doing some more myself. The one I've posted is from my 'stock', and I'd rather get something new if I can.
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Badgerman
Nocturnal Non-Scaredy Cat In A Deep Pit
Reged: 05/01/2006
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Another great shot from Ian A.
I dont know where you get your Ideas from, but you manage to come up with a great shot every time --- Not easy.
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Ian_A
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I dont know where you get your Ideas from, but you manage to come up with a great shot every time --- Not easy.
Beer helps ... 
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Done&rundleCams
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Reged: 20/12/2001
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Loc: Vancouver, BC
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I dont know where you get your Ideas from, but you manage to come up with a great shot every time --- Not easy.
Beer helps ...
Morning Ian,
Great shot and having the ability to see the/a potential photo-op doesn't hurt as well .
Cheers,
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Done&rundleCams
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Morning Mark,
Great shot...well spotted
cheers,
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AlanW
Reged: 08/01/2001
Posts: 3107
Loc: Edinburgh
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Just one question, Ian, was it a set up? If so, then I personally wouldn't consider it as 'street' or 'candid'. I seem to remember you posting something very similar, if not this very same shot, quite a while ago . . . or is my mind playing tricks? 
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Siuya
Cool Hand Chris
Reged: 21/07/2001
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Loc: Knackers yard!
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Well captured David
Chris
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Ian_A
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I thought you might ask that, Alan, and yes, I did set it up - I had a Robert Doisneau moment ...
As I said above, I've taken this photo from my 'stock', but am looking to replace it if I can before the month is up.
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BigWill
Gorgeous oversensitive Nikon-loving cream puff
Reged: 08/09/2000
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Clearly this image was so well done that it did indeed fool a few people into thinking it was the "real McCoy" and kudos to Ian for achieving that. It is however "an image of an image" rather than a "genuine" street/candid shot and for this reason I have similar misgivings about it to Alan but purely on the grounds that I think it should be made plain that it is indeed a setup shot and then leave people free to judge it on aesthetic grounds thereafter.
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Hotblack
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Reged: 07/03/2006
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Loc: Upstairs in the spare room.
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Clearly this image was so well done that it did indeed fool a few people into thinking it was the "real McCoy" and kudos to Ian for achieving that. It is however "an image of an image" rather than a "genuine" street/candid shot and for this reason I have similar misgivings about it to Alan but purely on the grounds that I think it should be made plain that it is indeed a setup shot and then leave people free to judge it on aesthetic grounds thereafter.
BigWill
I have to agree with Will here. I had my suspicions but didn't want to say anything. I did feel it had a 'set-up' feeling to it. Therefore does it count?
Or am I just jealous 'cos Ian keeps puting up stonking pictures. 
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BigWill
Gorgeous oversensitive Nikon-loving cream puff
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Clearly this image was so well done that it did indeed fool a few people into thinking it was the "real McCoy" and kudos to Ian for achieving that. It is however "an image of an image" rather than a "genuine" street/candid shot and for this reason I have similar misgivings about it to Alan but purely on the grounds that I think it should be made plain that it is indeed a setup shot and then leave people free to judge it on aesthetic grounds thereafter.
BigWill
I have to agree with Will here. I had my suspicions but didn't want to say anything. I did feel it had a 'set-up' feeling to it. Therefore does it count?
Or am I just jealous 'cos Ian keeps puting up stonking pictures.
I think it does indeed "count" but ONLY with the proviso that people KNOW it's a setup shot otherwise there might be a danger of people concluding that it's "against the spirit" of candid/street photography. It still IS a candid/street "type" shot after all.......................it's just the way it was created that's different.
BigWill
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AlanW
Reged: 08/01/2001
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Loc: Edinburgh
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I think it's always best to come clean from the start, the cynic (or just call it 'life experience') in me rarely takes things at face value. As well as the 'Doisneau moments' and Bill Brandt recruiting most of his friends and relations for many of his well known pictures the most extreme case I think I've come across - though I don't think the photographer was trying to pull the wool over anyone's eyes and I actually like the picture a lot, it was only later that I learned just how elaborate a setup it was - I'm talking about Jeff Wall's iconic A Sudden Gust of Wind (after Hokusai) 1993 . . . .
This work is one of Wall's earliest digital montages. It refers directly to a woodblock print by Japanese artist Katsushika Hokusai. Wall transposes the nineteenth-century Japanese scene to a contemporary cranberry farm near Vancouver. Amateur actors play the odd assortment of rural and city characters, surprised by the forces of nature. It required over 100 photographs, taken over the course of more than a year, to achieve a seamless montage that gives the illusion of capturing a real moment in time.
Interesting, a photograph of something that didn't happen
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The Circle Of Confusion
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Reged: 01/03/2006
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We were talking about that photo in class the other day. It is rather cunning. What I'm not sure of is WHY it took so many exposures over such a long period of time.
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BigWill
Gorgeous oversensitive Nikon-loving cream puff
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I "personally" am of the opinion that street/candid shots should NOT be setup as one of the main attractions of them for me is their spontaneity. That is my personal preference though and I respect the right of others to try to "re-create" such moments in time PROVIDED that I am made aware that it is indeed a "re-creation" or "setup".
Ian did indeed "come clean" and admit his shot was a "setup" when prompted to do so by Alan but I think it was an error of judgment on Ian's part not to do so originally......................but we all make errors of judjment..............even the defense secretary Des Brown!
BigWill
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AntSmith
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Reged: 06/03/2007
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Loc: Essex
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I'm not at all sure that 'candid' can be set-up under any circumstances and still be candid; of course no reason why 'street phot' can't be - is it a film shot? There must be an argument that says some digital fiddling in photoshop after the fact is analagous to real-world fiddling in the street before the fact! Does the freedom that digital photographers all enjoy also gift an entirely new code to film workers? Now, there's a thought......
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