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Check this out...
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huwevans
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Why? What's your point?
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Woolliscroft
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Why? What's your point?
What he said? Have you sent us to the right page?
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TimF
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A picture of the camera, yes? Very nice, but like the others say.
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DS2
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I thought it was tribute to Zeiss even thought this camera has nothing to do with Kyocera. Sorry for posting ths image.
Simon
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mike_j
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Another Cosina product - that's Voigtlander, Epson and ZI.
Still: in the past they have made Canon T-60, Nikon FM-10, Olympus OM-2000, Ricoh KR-5-Super-2, Yashica FX? and Miranda amongst others.
I think they do a tremendous job reviving the rangefinder camera and I'm a great supporter. When will they produce a rf version carrying the L name I wonder?
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Yeah, but this camera has been out for AGES!
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TimF
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Another Cosina product - that's Voigtlander, Epson and ZI.
Don't forget the Rollei branded version. 
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TimF
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I thought it was tribute to Zeiss even thought this camera has nothing to do with Kyocera. Sorry for posting ths image.
No need for any apology. This camera probably came about because Zeiss had lost much of their presence in the stills photography world recently - ie, the retirement, wonded, of Kyocera and Hasselblad's effective dumping of their classic 6x6 line for the new H series which have, I believe, lenses by Fuji. So we get the Zeiss M line and the Nikon mount ZF lenses, and in the pipeline some classicly styled lenses for Hasselblad's 500 series cameras.
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mike_j
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Another Cosina product - that's Voigtlander, Epson and ZI.
Don't forget the Rollei branded version.
Yes I had. Cosina crop up everywhere don't they?
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DS2
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Unfortunately in there are no camera stores in Western Canada that carries the Zeiss Ikon Rangefinder 35, all I've seen so far are the ones from Voigtlander.
The Zeiss Ikon Rangefinder is not cheap it is the same price as a used Leica M-2 or M-3 at $1,200 Canadian Dollars at estimate.
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Lounge Lizard
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The Zeiss Ikon Rangefinder is not cheap it is the same price as a used Leica M-2 or M-3 at $1,200 Canadian Dollars at estimate.
Why would you expect something from Zeiss to be cheap? If you want 'cheap', buy the Voigtlander.
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DS2
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The camera is not from Zeiss, it's made by Cosina the same company that makes the Voiglander. $1,200 is a lot for just the body and no lens...the kit alone is the as much as an used Leica M-6 body.
I didn't expect it to be cheap, but in my opinion I'd rather go for a M-3, which in my opinion is still a nicer camera to carry around.
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TimF
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The camera is not from Zeiss, it's made by Cosina the same company that makes the Voiglander.
That's true, but Zeiss have a major input. The build quality of the ZI camera (and its lenses) is several notches above the Voigtlander bodies. Still below that of Leica, but you'd expect that with the price difference.
While the body alone costs in the same region as a used M6, it does have aperture priority AE in addition to manual exposure. That's not important to me, but would be a draw to those who may hanker after the M7 but can't justify the cost - even s/h it can be £1300-1400.
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DS2
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I agree 100% Tim with your opinion.
Cheers,
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Woolliscroft
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The camera is not from Zeiss, it's made by Cosina the same company that makes the Voiglander. $1,200 is a lot for just the body and no lens...the kit alone is the as much as an used Leica M-6 body.
Simon
Yes, but it's made to Zeiss specs,
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DS2
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That is true David, the camera is made to Zeiss specs. but I won't shell out that kind of cash on a new film camera,with the same amount as a M6 with lens...my choice is most definitely Leica M-6 used.
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Rhys
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Looks like a nice little camera, though I think I'll stick to my old folding 120 versions 
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DS2
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One camera I am dying to get my hands on...
Simon's Ultimate Zeiss Camera
Zeiss Contessa 35mm folding camera of 1950-53 or MKII 1953-55 with MX flash.
Cheers,
Simon
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Benchista
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It's nice - very nice - but not a patch on this one.
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Hi Nick,
Too bad the shutter system on the Contaflex TLR was of a bad design...otherwise it would have been a marvelous camera when working. Really beautiful camera, like eveything else out of Germany it's over engineered. I give my rating 9.5/10 for historical value but still nowhere near a Rolleiflex.
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Simon
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TimF
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Really beautiful camera, like eveything else out of Germany it's over engineered. I give my rating 9.5/10 for historical value but still nowhere near a Rolleiflex.
Which is also out of Germany of course, as are Leica. I'd certainly agree that many Zeiss cameras were over-engineered in the past, but its unfair to label everything German as such.
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DS2
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Lol Tim.
Cheers,
Simon
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Lounge Lizard
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That is true David, the camera is made to Zeiss specs. but I won't shell out that kind of cash on a new film camera,with the same amount as a M6 with lens...my choice is most definitely Leica M-6 used.
Other people may prefer a new Ford over a secondhand Mercedes...
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DS2
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Hi David,
Very true statement,it's like new cameras vs. classic cameras. Classic cameras are great for what they are, new cameras are great for what they can do.
Cheers,
Simon
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graham_mouat
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It's nice - very nice - but not a patch on this one.
Just a shame it has a teensy drawback, then. I quote from the website:
But as a instrument for making photographs, it is miserable. 
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Oh pish and tush, nothing that a little ingenuity can't solve. 
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melek
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Well, the new Zeiss Ikon rangefinder is a product of Carl Zeiss and not a product of Cosina. You will not find Cosina's name on any literature, lens or bodies, boxes or manuals.
Cosina is simply the contract manufacturer.
It was a mistake for Zeiss to mention that Cosina is the manufacturer. There are routine and incorrect statements that this is a Cosina product, a rebadged Cosina, a camera with Cosina parts, etc.
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It was a mistake for Zeiss to mention that Cosina is the manufacturer.
Nonsense. Much better to be upfront about it. Any likely customer has enough sense to know that Cosina is perfectly capable - anyone who doesn't isn't likely to be in the market. Trying to hide it would lead to MUCH worse in the long run.
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