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17/03/2008 21:28
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70-200mm - f2.8
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Is there one of these that I can get for my Alphas without paying the £1700+ that Sony want for theirs?
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Re: 70-200mm - f2.8
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There's the Sigma 70-200 f2.8 EX for at least a grand less...
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17/03/2008 21:40
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Re: 70-200mm - f2.8
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Thanks Nick, I'll put that on my list.
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Re: 70-200mm - f2.8
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I don't know how it compares with the Sony lens, but I've got an elderly version for Canon that is an excellent performer, and Huw uses one in Nikon fit more than happily.
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RonM
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17/03/2008 22:10
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Re: 70-200mm - f2.8
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I doubt it will have the SSM technology of the Sony nor the 'D' (ADI) capabillity, however Marc, it might be worth your while checking out the Sigma specs just to see what they say, If you don't require the aforesaid technologies then you might want to search for a S/H Minolta 80 - 200 f/2.8 G, which will probably be more in the sort of price bracket you'd be more comfortable with,
Just a thought, but, good luck with the hunt for class glass, if it were me I'd save hard for the Sony (am actually doing so now, but dependant on the new full frame DSLR price the savings may go towards that, oh dear so much gear so little savings  )
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17/03/2008 22:17
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Re: 70-200mm - f2.8
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Thanks. May have to shoot lots of Polo this summer! 
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RonM
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17/03/2008 22:39
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Re: 70-200mm - f2.8
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Marc,
If its distance you need to cover then at the 300mm length there is the Minolta 300 f/4 HS APO G which may fit the bill, I picked one up for £600 S/H last year and had great results, there were times when it was a bit overkill for some shots and found I was sudenly too close
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Steve52
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(old hand)
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17/03/2008 23:52
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Although I already had a Sigma 70-300 f3.5-5.6, managed to pick up a Sigma 70-200 f2.8 for £170 on e-bay. It is an older type, as the small lens hood actually screws onto the lens, as opposed to twist fitting. Works a treat though.
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Sigma have at last decided is worth making their APO 70-200mm F2.8 II EX DG MACRO HSM in Sony mount. I guess it will be about a grand cheaper than the Sony equivalent - and it does have the internal HSM motor unlike their mark I version for Sony 
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Sigma have at last decided is worth making their APO 70-200mm F2.8 II EX DG MACRO HSM in Sony mount. I guess it will be about a grand cheaper than the Sony equivalent - and it does have the internal HSM motor unlike their mark I version for Sony
Looks good Rog, when you getting one, straight away or wait a few months after release?
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Sigma have at last decided is worth making their APO 70-200mm F2.8 II EX DG MACRO HSM in Sony mount. I guess it will be about a grand cheaper than the Sony equivalent - and it does have the internal HSM motor unlike their mark I version for Sony
Looks good Rog, when you getting one, straight away or wait a few months after release?
Actually I wasn't thinking of getting one at all. I don't really have a use for fast lenses, I'd rather sacrifice a stop for the convenience of a smaller size lens. I might be interested in the new Sony 70-300 F4.5-5.6 G SAL-70300G when it becomes available.
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Sounds very sensible to me. In the Canon world, I've got the aforementioned ancient version of the Sigma, and it's a really great lens, but I don't like carrying it around all the time. However, I've got a 70-300 IS lens that despite not being quite as sharp, and without the same speed, gets used a lot more because it's easier to carry around. If I were starting from scratch now, I certainly wouldn't have both. There's no point buying more or less lens than you need or can use.
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18/03/2008 16:58
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Re: 70-200mm - f2.8
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I'm specifically looking at the faster zoom for indoor sports (Showjumping mainly). If anyone knows of alternatives, I'd be delighted to hear.
Cheers
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I'm specifically looking at the faster zoom for indoor sports (Showjumping mainly). If anyone knows of alternatives, I'd be delighted to hear.
Cheers
Apart from the Sigma I've already mentioned there's also the new Tamron might be worth investigating?
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18/03/2008 17:16
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Re: 70-200mm - f2.8
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Thanks Roger. Slowly working its way down to my kind of budget. Now I,m sure I must be able to get SOMETHING for £4.50 and 2 cough drops. I know, A Canon SLR!
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Thanks Roger. Slowly working its way down to my kind of budget. Now I,m sure I must be able to get SOMETHING for £4.50 and 2 cough drops. I know, A Canon SLR!
That's very true, actually - that's pretty much exactly what I've paid for an old EOS 1000F for my son to mess about with.
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Thanks Roger. Slowly working its way down to my kind of budget. Now I,m sure I must be able to get SOMETHING for £4.50 and 2 cough drops. I know, A Canon SLR!
... getting into the realms of cheap but good lenses, for the A mount, there are of course two quite well known ones. The 70-210mm f4 "beercan" and its big brother the 75-300mm "big beercan". Both date from the early days of Minolta autofocus, 1985 - but still work extremely well on Sony Alphas. BUT there is one more lens, nowhere near as well known but very good, the Sigma 75-200mm f2.8-f3.5 push-pull zoom. Now if you want a VERY cheap quite fast chunk of glass this might be the answer
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That's very true, actually - that's pretty much exactly what I've paid for an old EOS 1000F for my son to mess about with.
... and is he using it?
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That's very true, actually - that's pretty much exactly what I've paid for an old EOS 1000F for my son to mess about with.
... and is he using it?
Not got it yet. Last night's ebay excess...
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Must say I am more than a tad surprised that you of all people didn't have a spare basic inexpensive AF SLR sitting around unused on a shelf somewhere that could have been pressed into service as a Sam-trainer.
Are you absolutely sure you bought it for him, and aren't just using the poor lad as an unwitting excuse for some more camera-buying? I really think you should come clean about this and own up. ;-)
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Positive. There is one (50E), but it needs a new back catch - all the rest are either too heavy or worth too much to me - a fiver isn't a huge problem, though 
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Hmmmm. <scratches chin> I guess I'll just have to take your word for it. But as my mother would say, 'ah hae ma doots'. ;-)
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Well OK, there's my APS SLR (IX), but that's only fit for AP Editors. I like my 100 and 10 too much, the 600s are too heavy and have a more complicated control system, the 5 is too big, no way is he getting his hands on the 3, 1v or RT. I could dig out the manual focus EF-M, I suppose - bottom line is that this 1000F is expendable, the rest aren't.
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Well OK, there's my APS SLR (IX), but that's only fit for AP Editors.
Oooh, cutting! :-)
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El Sid
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(Going potty)
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19/03/2008 12:11
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Well OK, there's my APS SLR (IX), but that's only fit for AP Editors.
Oooh, cutting! :-)
Should we expect an advert for a new moderator shortly?... 
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Well OK, there's my APS SLR (IX), but that's only fit for AP Editors.
Oooh, cutting! :-)
Should we expect an advert for a new moderator shortly?...
He never comes in here.
Anyway, Damien has a fine collection of APS SLRs, and we were discussing the merits of the IX not that long ago. He was trying to convince me to buy more cameras...
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He was trying to convince me to buy more cameras...
That would be like trying to convince me to eat more sausage sarnies! ;-)
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Apart from the Sigma I've already mentioned there's also the new Tamron might be worth investigating?
Given the good reports other Tamrons get and the obvious Tamron/Sony tie up that sounds like a very good bet, maybe it will appear later with a Sony badge? (And price hike to match)
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Is there one of these that I can get for my Alphas without paying the £1700+ that Sony want for theirs?
You can get some good deals, I debated what to do for a long time, last year Sigma had no 70-200 with HSM so it was a slightly different decision to today but I bought the Sony for about an A200 less than that price.
It really is the most amazing piece(s) of glass, apart from being so fast and smooth with the SSM the sharpness and quality if just outstanding.
Its worth considering
(just don't tell the wife!)
Having said that Sony just have the UK price just plain wrong compared to the competition and I hope they sort this out when they want to get serious about gaining market share with the full frame pro camera launch later this year (we assume).
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