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Fen
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27/04/2008 19:28
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D3 - First Impressions
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First of all, thankyou for all the help and advice you all gave me in the other thread. Was very helpful.
I ended up buying:
- Nikon D3
- Nikon 14-24mm F2.8 G AFS ED
- Nikon 105mm f2.8G AF-S VR Micro IF-ED
- Sigma 50-500mm F4-6.3 EX EOS HSM DG
- Nikon SB-800 Flashgun
Now... First Impressions 
The weather here has been appalling so haven't been able to go out and take lots of photos, so it's been a case of familiarising myself with the camera, the button layout and the menus and boy is that enough for starters! The manual is a weighty tome and I've only skipped through it so far.
The camera itself feel so perfect in the hand, the buttons/dials all seem to be in the perfect place for easy access. I haven't got huge hands, but it just feels... well... 'right'. I'm you all know what I mean!
I've only had the 105mm Macro on there so far, due to the weather. Managed to get into the garden for a few minutes between the rainstorms.
Took a few quick hand held shots of a couple of flowers, just as test shots...
Not a fantastic shot... But it's ISO 1000.
Here's a close up of a darker area, for noise:
The photo is straight out of the camera, auto everything and then converted to TIFF in Lightoom and then to JPEG via Photoshop.
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I'm pleased you're enjoying it, but I don't think the close up is from a part of the picture which is in focus. Do you? You don't need £3500 of camera and lens to do that! Where does the camera think the focus point is?
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Fen
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(BAD WOLF)
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27/04/2008 19:46
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If I was posting a photo to show the sharpness, then I would've posted a sharp photo.
The closeup wasn't to show the sharpness, more the lack of noise. I won't bother in the future!
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If I was posting a photo to show the sharpness, then I would've posted a sharp photo.
The closeup wasn't to show the sharpness, more the lack of noise. I won't bother in the future!
... but but please do  I'm very interested in seeing what sort of noise (or rather lack of it!) this camera can produce - gives me a wonderful bench mark to compare with my own.
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You carry on Fen, I expect a picture or two from every lens at every iso setting and aperture under a variety of conditions, it'll be good to get a blow by blow account from the man on the street rather than a journo.
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Now that you've clarified what your intention was with the closeup, I understand.
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Adesw
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(The phantom flasher)
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28/04/2008 08:04
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I see noise! *points like a little kid
Seriously though, ISO 1000. Thats nothing.
You can use iso's equal to your debpt with the d3!
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Well done Fen: I have stared at many dark areas taken with the D3 and at 100% and been amazed at the results achieved at ISO 1000 and well beyond.
The D3 has changed my way of doing things in photography. Your 1000 ISO is quite modest, but it will give you extra depth of field or faster shutter speeds when the needs arise.
I took this picture on a very bright day a couple of weeks ago. I used a modest ISO 500 which gave me, at 70mm on the 24-70, 1/500th at f/15. On a duller day I would have been quite confident to use a much higher ISO without any noise worries.
And for those who right-click I know I spelled the place of the shot wrongly 
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And for those who right-click I know I spelled the place of the shot wrongly
Worse than that, it's a colour shot on a sitte called "justmono"!! 
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alanS
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28/04/2008 10:15
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TB - Nice shot that.
Fen - 14-24 on a FF sounds like it'd suit me! You have a bit of a gap in your zoom lengths there so is something like a 24-70 f2.8 on the menu for the future?
I'm very jealous, but I think I'll wait for the next Canon mid range FF and struggle by with my 20D until then. That noise example looks very impressive! and very attractive to fans of available light,
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Quote:
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And for those who right-click I know I spelled the place of the shot wrongly
Worse than that, it's a colour shot on a sitte called "justmono"!!
Yes: you spotted that!
I did think of naming the website
www.justmonobutsometimesIsurrepticiouslystickinabitofcolour.co.uk
but was never sure how to spell surreptitious.
Thanks, Alan: Llanddwyn is one of my favourite places and it was lovely to be there on a gorgeous afternoon when we mostly had the walk to the island to ourselves.
I have since bought the DVD of "Half Light" with Demi Moore which was supposed to be set in Scotland but was filmed on Llanddwyn Island (Anglesey), or for the Welsh Ynys Llanddwyn, Ynys Mon
Q What do they call a sheep tied to a post in Llanfairfechan?
A The Leisure Centre
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parisian
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(Over the hill and far away...)
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28/04/2008 13:11
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No Clive, two sheep is a leisure centre. One is merely foreplay.
For anyone that has never been to Llandwyn it is a wonderful place and well worth the trip. Happily we live only a dozen miles from there so it is a pleasant run for dog walks etc.
Fortunately the pink lighthouse (for the movie) has been restored to a more acceptable white.
More pics please Clive.
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I think Llanddwyn is my favourite of all UK walks, followed closely by the cliff top walk to and down onto Three Cliffs Bay on the Gower.
Here's another one on the mainland this time, Peter. Again the D3 with 24-70. ISO 500, focal length 36mm, f/18 and 1/250 second. Special No-Prize event for first person to give the name of the lake and the mountain behind (which I last climbed in 1964)
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Nice shots m8, spelling not a strong point with me iether,
But syruptissue sounds like a medical condition......
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Stewpot
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(journeyman)
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29/04/2008 21:47
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Fen
I have been reading your post's recently (with only a hint of envy) and glad to read and see the first results please keep us posted
Regards Stewpot
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Fen
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29/04/2008 21:53
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Thankyou.
I'll be in Brighton tomorrow with the new girl, hopefully... weather permitting... will get some more shots
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Thankyou.
I'll be in Brighton tomorrow with the new girl, hopefully... weather permitting... will get some more shots
Don,t worry if it rains,,,slurps  wet teashirts and such.......
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Fen
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(BAD WOLF)
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29/04/2008 22:20
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Errr "new girl" is the camera
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And you don,t think it,s sexy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Fen
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(BAD WOLF)
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29/04/2008 22:47
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And you don,t think it,s sexy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
well... I wouldn;t put a t-shirt on it!
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Nod
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30/04/2008 09:06
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So, you prefer to see her topless?
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parisian
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(Over the hill and far away...)
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30/04/2008 11:45
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Llyn Ogwen full to the brim at this time of year. It is a bit helpful that extra DOF at higher ISO's isn't it?
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Adesw
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(The phantom flasher)
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30/04/2008 14:21
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I remember reading a comment from a wedding tog that the D3 and other FF cameras ned the better ISO performance due to having a smaller dof so having to use a slower aperature.
Not gonna complain though
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A 35mm at f2.8 runs from 9m - infinity, at f18, it's from around 2m. Not clear how much subject is in the 2m - 9m range...
Personally, for this shot, I would have shot at lower ISO and wider aperture; ISO 500, 1/250 f18 is EV 16, so pretty bright. Each to his own of course...
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Llyn Ogwen it is, Peter, and it's Y Garn in the background.
I shot the scene directly into the sun, Mark, and on evaluative metering, so the exposure was a bit chancy, I guess, but the D3 performed really well. I'm sure I did not need the luxury of the depth of field that f/18 gave, but I took a lot of shots from that vantage point and further along the lake. With more time perhaps I would adopt a more considered approach, but the beauty of shooting at ISO 500 on a pretty bright day is that I know I can get great depth of field with a fast shutter speed without thinking. Also, ISO 500 is so good, there is really no reason not to.
On this shot, taken about 5 minutes later, I again used ISO 500, and the 24-70 at 70mm, and achieved 1/200 at f/18. Perhaps the balance of shutter speed and aperture could have been more appropriate, but every shot taken in this "500 ISO will get it all at f/18" mode was perfect, whether at Llanddwyn or on the mainland:
Oh, and anyone know this mountain, also climbed last in 1964?
You'd better Adam and Eve it!
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Tryfan. And I last climbed it in 1978. :-)
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Well done, Huw: and did you jump from Adam to Eve?
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'Fraid not - it was a manky damp day by the time I got to the top and I didn't fancy slipping off and crashing onto the rocks round about. (Likely helicopter job, I reckoned.) OTOH, I did climb out and sit on the end of the Cannon. :-)
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I did climb out and sit on the end of the Cannon. :-)
Ah, now we're getting somewhere. I think some fruitcake er, half-baked doughball er, muffin might have a field day with that information...
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Have been reading this thread carefully and have to say that on the first shot you posted I could see NO noise!!?? It looked like shallow film grain at worst.  Iso 1000 on that looks like iso500 on my d70 imo.
Would be interesting if nikon release a videomode for the next D camera. Something I've read a few people have been asking about (Dan Chung made a little comment on this in AP 19 april). If slrs like the top end nikons start doing this dont you reckon it would put a scare in those top-end camcorder makers
Have you done any portraiture with yours yet, Fen? (Clives pic of his grandkid seemed to show it had nice redition of tones)
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Seven..
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(...or maybe Eight)
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05/05/2008 10:40
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well... I wouldn;t put a t-shirt on it!
it's damn sexy when firing off on continuous!
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Fen
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(BAD WOLF)
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05/05/2008 10:46
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And you don,t think it,s sexy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
well... I wouldn;t put a t-shirt on it!
it's damn sexy when firing off on continuous!
Wonder where you saw/heard that...
*innocent whistle*
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BrianT
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(Old Hand)
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05/05/2008 11:34
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How on earth can a camera be sexy?
First impressions....same as the D2x, they both remind me of a mobile phone, about twenty five years ago
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I hear some people calling cars sexy, If a bloomin E-type can be sexy................
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Seven..
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(...or maybe Eight)
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06/05/2008 08:34
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How on earth can a camera be sexy?
First impressions....same as the D2x, they both remind me of a mobile phone, about twenty five years ago
lol not the bulk and weight for sure Brian Never heard anything like the speed it fires off though, Fen gave me a demo
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BrianT
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06/05/2008 08:56
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Never heard anything like the speed it fires off though, Fen gave me a demo
It's not the speed of firing Tanya it's the accuracy that counts.
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Yesterday I decided I would do my 'close up' image for the forum competition. (Yes, I know, I subsequently found out I should have pointed the camera upwards )
Anyway, I put my new AFS 60mm micro onto the D3 and pointed the thing at a tulip. I thought I would try a shallow DOF and hand-hold. ISO 800 gave me 1/1600 at f/3.5. Enough to counter hand shake and the mild warm breeze. It was taken in the evening with the tulips in shade.
This is a crop from about 1/3rd of the frame, straight out of RAW with no fiddling about (I always use minimum colour saturation; not even levels were adjusted:
And now the obligatory 100% image:
Even at ISO 800 the grain/noise, call it what you will, is so beautiful. Had I boosted the vibrancy/saturation, fiddled with the levels (only slightly) I think this is something like "digital velvia" but with 4x the speed. Had I used VR on a lower ISO I might have got some flower movement.
This camera is continuing to absolutely gobsmack.
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By boosting the saturation do you mean in-camera? When I do this on the d70 is goes a bit naff and doesnt have the same feel as velvia. I get much better results in elements 3.
On the D3 are we at the stage where we can tweak colour channels saturation yet? Or is it RGB-all-in-one?
I'll say it again, I love the look of the "grain" that thing produces.
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I read about this noise/grain thing in the reviews of the D3 before I had mine, not really appreciating what it meant, Dan.
I always have my cameras set for lowest saturation, preferring to do it myself in software afterwards. Some RAW/NEF converters have a 'colour vibrance' slider which is quite useful, but an ordinary saturation slider is good too, if not overdone.
What the D3 seems to produce is the closest I have seen to the look of Velvia when good scans are viewed at magnification. There is nothing quite like Velvia in the film world, and I have only used the old '50' - I still have large stocks of 120 which still seem OK. With the D3 I just need to up the saturation a little, or the colour vibrance.
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Most of the time I hated velvia tbh, but found it useful when photographing grafitti or a dull day. Cheers for the info.
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TimF
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09/05/2008 10:01
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How on earth can a camera be sexy?
First impressions....same as the D2x, they both remind me of a mobile phone, about twenty five years ago
Yes. Nice bit of kit, but far too big for my liking. If we all shout loud enough, d'ya reckon Nikon would do a kind of 5D-alike? I don't need a zillion frames-a-second either.
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BrianT
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09/05/2008 12:17
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d'ya reckon Nikon would do a kind of 5D-alike?
It would be nice Tim.
This morning I have been playing with my F3, lovely camera. Do you know for two pins I would start looking at scanners. I just don't see the point, the manufacturers keep bringing out all these fantastically high spec cameras loaded with features and we all seem to take the same rubbish we did in the dark ages of Compur Rapid shutters and a hand held meter.
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The d300 is probably as close to a 5D as we're gonna see for a long while I reckon. 
I think the shutter noise on dslrs should be addressed though. Why do they have to sound like tommy guns?  The amount of times I've scared off wildlife in the garden with mine and from the sounds of the videos on youtube the d3 and d300 aint much better. Possibly worse.
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Rhys
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10/05/2008 13:35
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Does make me wonder why I have a silent option on my F4 (think it's more for the motor drive than anything else - just gives a fluttering sound) and dSLR's are noisier when there is no motor drive at all..
Just done a comparison between a Pentax SP1, a Nikon F4E and a D1x and the F4 was quieter (discluding the sound of motor drive) and I think the SP1 (Spotmatic) is slightly quieter than the D1x..
You'd think that mirror dampening would be more advanced than it is, or pelical mirrors would have been bettered since the Canon EOS1-RS and RT models to give brighter viewfinders (would also cut down on sensor dust if dust can't get to them..)
As for shutters, they can be made to be near enough silent - Leica have been doing that for years. Played with an M7 and could hardly hear the shutter being fired.
Just my tuppence worth.
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Indeed, the M7 shutter is whisper quiet but struggles to do more than 1/700 second, not to mention flash sync at 1/50. The D3 is indeed noisy, but in an authoritative sort of way.... LOL.
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Indeed, the M7 shutter is whisper quiet but struggles to do more than 1/700 second, not to mention flash sync at 1/50. The D3 is indeed noisy, but in an authoritative sort of way.... LOL.
You would sound authoratatative with a tommy gun.
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When I first got the D300 I put it on CH (continuance high)
Just to see how fast it was,and nearly dropped it when the "Tommy Gun" went off.
If there was a feature I would like it would be a very quiet shutter.
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11/05/2008 00:03
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If you like the sound of shutters firing at full chat then try an F3 with MD-4 attached.
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11/05/2008 17:58
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Its not the shutter that makes the noise; its the mirror.
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True, but one could argue its part of the whole mechanism... (Thats my excuse anyway )
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True, but one could argue its part of the whole mechanism... (Thats my excuse anyway )
LOL And mine
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12/05/2008 09:17
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I wonder if all this noise is due to the number chasing obsession with machine gun frame rates? The faster the frame rate the faster the mirror mechanism needs to cycle which must inevitably lead to more noise. I suppose one might argue that the OEMs could use two speed settings - one for continuous and one for single shooting - but of course a fast mirror also means a shorter shutter lag.......
I don't know how noisy the current crop of Nikon digiboxes really are but I do know there's a hell of a difference between my old 2-3 fps EOS D30 which is scarcely more than a quiet snick and the 5-6fps 20D which sounds like a dungeon door bolt in comparison....
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12/05/2008 11:20
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"20D which sounds like a dungeon door bolt"
Embarrassingly loud I think and perhaps caused at least in part by the need to accept EF-S lenses. A selectable quieter mode would be welcomed by me.
I had a 10D for a while and the difference to the 20D was immediately noticeable. I can't remember what my 300D was like.
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12/05/2008 12:01
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Embarrassingly loud I think and perhaps caused at least in part by the need to accept EF-S lenses. A selectable quieter mode would be welcomed by me.
I had a 10D for a while and the difference to the 20D was immediately noticeable. I can't remember what my 300D was like.
True, the mirror has to move backwards slightly in order to clear the rear of the EF-S mount......... I continue to wonder, based on these sorts of drawback and the excellent quality achieved by the likes of Sigma and Tamron using the normal EF mount, why Canon persist with the idea....... 
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continue to wonder, based on these sorts of drawback and the excellent quality achieved by the likes of Sigma and Tamron using the normal EF mount, why Canon persist with the idea.......
But why oh why wouldn't they? If they can make either better lenses, or lenses as good but can make them cheaper, surely it makes sense to them?
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12/05/2008 15:29
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It's quite clear we are never going to agree on the validity of the EF-S concept. To me it appears that despite the theoretical advantages claimed for short back focus - about which I'm equally unconvinced - the 3rd party manufacturers are producing lenses as good or better than the Canon models and at a lower price. If Canon were to do the same they would not need the extra complication involved in back-shifting the mirror fractionally and the mirror mechanism would not be quite so loud...
To my mind all the EF-S system has done is add a compatibility issue to a system that was largely free of them (the flash control method excepted) for a claimed 'advantage' that largely does not appear to exist.......
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The point you've missed is that Canon can make more profit this way...
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12/05/2008 16:23
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Not if we all go off and buy Sigma they don't.........
And being the cynic I am that thought had crossed my mind.......... 
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I don't even mean it excessively cynically - simply that if they can design a lens that's competitive but costs them less due to the short back focus, then it's well worth their while. Of course the more cynical readings also apply...
FTR, I'm no lover of EF-S at all, just I can see why they've done it.
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12/05/2008 17:33
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Loudest camera I ever had the misfortune to use was a Fuji GW670 - the shutter gave a loud springy CLANG! No mirror as it was a range finder..
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I think I know what FTR means, but have ANBI (Absolutely No Bl**dy Idea) what an EF-S is. Should I have one? Am I missing something?
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FTR, I'm no lover of EF-S at all, just I can see why they've done it.
I think I know what FTR means, but have ANBI (Absolutely No Bl**dy Idea) what an EF-S is. Should I have one?
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BigWill
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(Gorgeous oversensitive Nikon-loving cream puff)
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12/05/2008 19:07
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FTR, I'm no lover of EF-S at all, just I can see why they've done it.
I think I know what FTR means, but have ANBI (Absolutely No Bl**dy Idea) what an EF-S is. Should I have one? Am I missing something?
EF-S, it stands for "Extra Fangs-Spare" Clive and yes you do need them just in case you happen to chip a tooth some night on a virgin with an extremely tough neck!
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Adesw
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(The phantom flasher)
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12/05/2008 22:41
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With all the discussion anout mirrors I wondered why the mirror has to go down every frame when shooting at stupid fps.
I havent used a D3 or the canon equiv, but I can just picture looking through the viewfinder when firing it off at 11fps. Does it have an epilepsy warning?
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With all the discussion anout mirrors I wondered why the mirror has to go down every frame when shooting at stupid fps.
I'm not sure what's stupid about the frame rates. However, if the mirror didn't return you would just have a blacked out viewfinder. Mirror-return enables you to continue to follow the action during a burst and keep it framed as you want it. It also enables the autofocus and exposure to be updated during the burst. I think the D3 needs to be operating at 9fps or less for that, though.
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Adesw
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(The phantom flasher)
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13/05/2008 09:54
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I use the word stupid out of context alot.
Like if I have to get up before 7 I usually call it stupid o clock. so I just mean as in really high.
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I tink it's a yout' ting innit.
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El Sid
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(Going potty)
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13/05/2008 11:04
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Like if I have to get up before 7 I usually call it stupid o clock.
But any time before 7am is stupid o'clock!........... probably why I'll never be a landscape photographer.......
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I use the word stupid out of context alot. ... so I just mean as in really high.
Ah - as in, 'about time we threw out that gorgonzola - it's getting really stupid', or, 'that Mount Everest - a bit stupid or what?' ;-)
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I use the word stupid out of context alot. ... so I just mean as in really high.
Ah - as in, 'about time we threw out that gorgonzola - it's getting really stupid', or, 'that Mount Everest - a bit stupid or what?' ;-)
Or 'Man, that skunk's strong, just one spliff and I got so stupid.'
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I use the word stupid out of context alot. ... so I just mean as in really high.
Ah - as in, 'about time we threw out that gorgonzola - it's getting really stupid', or, 'that Mount Everest - a bit stupid or what?' ;-)
Or 'Man, that skunk's strong, just one spliff and I got so stupid.'
Aah, I've got it! It comes from HDR! To be known henceforth as SDR!
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Aah, I've got it! It comes from HDR! To be known henceforth as SDR!
Joking apart, that actually could catch on! :-)
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Aah, I've got it! It comes from HDR! To be known henceforth as SDR!
Joking apart, that actually could catch on! :-)
Who says I was joking? Did you see a smilie?
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Adesw
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(The phantom flasher)
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14/05/2008 16:35
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ah, but it would only be SDR if it was over done.
So that would mean that HDR, rather then being an overused technique, would be a very rare sight done by masters of their art. While the other 99.9% of the images would be SDR
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So that would mean that HDR, rather then being an overused technique, would be a very rare sight done by masters of their art. While the other 99.9% of the images would be SDR
You're being generous with the 0.1%
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TimF
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16/05/2008 09:55
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I wonder if all this noise is due to the number chasing obsession with machine gun frame rates?
Very likely. It always makes me laugh when I see some press wallah firing off at maximum frame rate even if the guy he's shooting is just standing there talking to somebody!
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I wonder if all this noise is due to the number chasing obsession with machine gun frame rates?
Very likely. It always makes me laugh when I see some press wallah firing off at maximum frame rate even if the guy he's shooting is just standing there talking to somebody!
A perfectly sensible approach - anyone who photographs people or animals will know how easy it is to get an unusable shot because someone blinked at the moment of firing. Multiple frames improves the likelihood of getting the required shot. It's a simple matter of doing what's necessary to ensure the end result.
Further to that, press snappers tend to wait for particularly expressive gestures - hand movements, facial expressions, and so on. The latter especially can be extremely fleeting, and the face changes dramatically during the course of the expression forming. Again, a fast frame rate catches all sorts of things that with the naked eye we don't even notice. Sometimes those are the very shots that make it onto the front pages. I believe some press togs have even abandoned the still camera altogether in favour of digital video, as the resolution of that has improved enough for them to be able simply to select out just the right individual frame from the 'continuous' footage.
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