lisadb
(Pooh-Bah)
05/10/2007 11:32
Module 7 discussion

As I'm scratching my head a bit about something in mod 6 part B, I thought I'd start mod 7. So now as well as scratching my head I have spotty vision. Lisa.

APchris
(veteran)
05/10/2007 17:09
Re: Module 7 discussion

ALREADY!! Slow down Lisa, your showing me up!



lisadb
(Pooh-Bah)
06/10/2007 13:19
Re: Module 7 discussion

Come on Chris, keep up!

I'm sure Mrs APChris won't mind if the extension isn't finished for Xmas. Lisa.


APchris
(veteran)
07/10/2007 22:32
Re: Module 7 discussion

I'm not prepared to put that to the test... I value my wedding tackle!

lisadb
(Pooh-Bah)
09/10/2007 23:20
Re: Module 7 discussion

This ladybird's got an awful lot of dust on it. And some odd markings on it's back - looks like a ring flash reflection to me. Lisa.

lisadb
(Pooh-Bah)
23/10/2007 23:10
Re: Module 7 discussion

I'm now scratching my head about the ladybird in this module. What's all this reflection stuff on the wing cases? Looks very odd to me. Also, the perspective is peculiar in the statue pic in Part C - either the camera or operator had had one too many. Lisa.

lisadb
(Pooh-Bah)
26/11/2007 10:59
Re: Module 7 discussion

Now I've got mod 6 back I really must get on with mod 7. Trouble is, staring at the red blobs is literally giving me a headache. Lisa.

lisadb
(Pooh-Bah)
06/12/2007 13:47
Re: Module 7 discussion

I'm having a problem with the image in part A with the red squiggles on. You have to take off the other coloured marks but leave the red squiggles and red blocks on. I've managed everything apart from the yellow line inside the top inner V of the red X. It's because of the graduation of colour and the squiggley nature of the line. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how it's best to proceed? Lisa.

Azzi
(member)
06/12/2007 15:02
Re: Module 7 discussion

Hi Lisa,
Do you mean the area where the mark goes through two differnt areas of colour - ie crosses the boundary of two coloured areas? If so, I used the clone stamp to sample a clean area of the boundary - there is a small set of cross hairs to accurately align the clone stamp tool with the boundary accurately.I then very carefully applied the cloned area so that it was aligned with the boundary in the same manner in which it was sampled. Sometimes you can be out by a few pixels - in which case just delete and repeat.
Not the most eloquent explanation! May be I should have just said "I used the clone stamp"!
Chris


lisadb
(Pooh-Bah)
06/12/2007 17:32
Re: Module 7 discussion

That's sort of what I mean Chris and what you've suggested is what I've done for the majority of the image. It's just this particular bit which is a wiggley bent line with graduated red through to blue and a yellow line running through it. When I get home I'll post the bit I mean and you can see what you think. I'm probably trying to make things too complicated as usual. Lisa.

lisadb
(Pooh-Bah)
06/12/2007 19:46
Re: Module 7 discussion

Here's the bit that's causing the trouble. If the line was straight it'd be OK but it's wiggley and bent as well. Suggestions anyone?



Lisa.

PS for those that don't know the requirement is to get rid of the yellow and fill in the red and blue.


Azzi
(member)
07/12/2007 08:21
Re: Module 7 discussion

Hi Lisa,
Yep! I remember this. I just used a high magnification then the clone tool as explained - I then cleaned the area up with the clone tool set at a smaller radius using the gradation of pixels in the red and blue as my guide/target. It took some time so I`m not sure if it was the most efficient method - however the result was fine.
Good luck.
Chris


lisadb
(Pooh-Bah)
07/12/2007 13:45
Re: Module 7 discussion

Oh dear! that's what I did but it looks awful. I'll have another go. Lisa.

Azzi
(member)
07/12/2007 14:07
Re: Module 7 discussion

Lisa,
I just removed the yellow bits in about two minutes! I realised while I was doing this that you need to hold down the mouse button and drag the clone stamp over the area you are correcting - in this case along the direction of the boundary - this makes it much easier!
Chris


lisadb
(Pooh-Bah)
09/12/2007 22:10
Re: Module 7 discussion

Phew - I've finally managed it. I had a sudden idea this morning and when I tried it this afternoon it made all the difference. So that's mod 7 finished and ready to go in the post next week. Lisa.

APchris
(veteran)
15/12/2007 19:42
Re: Module 7 discussion

Hey, well done Lisa

lisadb
(Pooh-Bah)
17/12/2007 09:46
Re: Module 7 discussion

Thanks Chris. Got it in the post last Thurs. Only just got round to looking at Garry's DVDs and there's some useful tips in there for dealing with the rotation/perspective problems in mod 7. Not that I did sort out the perspective prob with one of the images, as that didn't seem to be what the module was about. Perhaps I should have? I'm sure Barney will let me know. lisa.

APchris
(veteran)
09/01/2008 00:46
Re: Module 7 discussion

Part A done already

I see what you mean about the ladybird Lisa. Lots of unusual marks and patterns on it, had difficulty deciding if I should clone them out or not , then left them alone and concentrated on the dust.

Now for the lamppost and wires...


APchris
(veteran)
09/01/2008 21:51
Re: Module 7 discussion

...and now the rest of mod 7 done too, well editing the images bit. I still need to do the write-up.

Have to say this one wasn't too difficult, due to having played with the clone tool and adjusted wonky horizons before. The measure tool is new to me and I found that of great benifit. I don't have a healing brush (PS6) so I had to do it all with the clone tool.

The last image, 07-06 with the statue and columns, was the hardest to do as it has converging verticals. My result has the statue straight but the columns still lean in at the top so I've adjusted a second version using the perspective correction tool as well that makes both columns vertical.

Not sure which one to submit though as perspective correction isn't part of this module, or should I send both?
What do you all think?

Having just sent my USB stick off with mod 6 I'll have to wait a few weeks before I can send this one off. Think I'll crack on with mod 8 while I wait!

Is that you I can see in the distance Lisa...? I'm catching you up!


lisadb
(Pooh-Bah)
09/01/2008 22:40
Re: Module 7 discussion

Must be the 'converging verticals' Chris!

[rub in mode on]I've got a four month advantage on you though, so as you've said yourself you've got to get a move on![rub in mode off] Lisa.

PS Did you enjoy Christmas at home now your extension is finished and how big was the Christmas tree??


APchris
(veteran)
09/01/2008 23:46
Re: Module 7 discussion

Quote:

Must be the 'converging verticals' Chris!




Thanks for the info Lisa

Christmas was a quiet affair this year but the extra space in the extension came in handy. The tree was the usual fake one in the lounge but next year we're thinking of a real one in a tub on the (yet to be completed} decking that will be visible through the big picture window in the extension


lisadb
(Pooh-Bah)
21/01/2008 21:58
Re: Module 7 discussion

Just got mod 7 back from Barney and 'phew' it's turned out OK despite my worries over the cloning etc. Lisa.

APchris
(veteran)
05/03/2008 14:32
Is this a record...?

...my mod 7 arrived back in the post just 16 days after sending it ! Thought I'd have another couple of weeks to finish mod 8, now I'll have to get on with it - no rest for the lazy!

lisadb
(Pooh-Bah)
05/03/2008 19:31
Re: Is this a record...?

You must have got it all right then. LDB

APchris
(veteran)
05/03/2008 19:46
Re: Is this a record...?

Mostly, but Angela said I was supposed to leave the 'black rectangle' in image 07-01???

I've re-read mod 7, part A and it says - "Take image 07-01 from the Image Bin and clean it, removing all marks and lines so the final image is completely unmarked." It doesn't say to leave the rectangle specifically, just remove marks and lines so I guess that means the rectangle would be left! Didn't see it at the time but it makes sense now - doh!

Were you confused by this one or did you get it right?


lisadb
(Pooh-Bah)
05/03/2008 19:57
Re: Is this a record...?

.....erh, I didn't think I was confused but then I took 'completely unmarked' to mean remove everything including the black rectangle. Barney's obviously confused as well but doesn't realise it, as he never said anything about leaving the black rectangle on or told me I shouldn't have taken it off. Double standards you know - just can't get the staff these days. Oh dear, bet I'm going to get a remark now and loose some %s. Lisa.

APchris
(veteran)
05/03/2008 20:06
Re: Is this a record...?

Heh...! heh...! Glad it's not just me then

lisadb
(Pooh-Bah)
05/03/2008 20:25
Re: Is this a record...it is now?

'The curse of the course book' strikes again! I hope someone has proof read the stuff for the new course more thoroughly. There's an ambiguity in mod 8 too, which I've pointed out to Barney.

Mod 8
Part B page 1 says '..reshoot images keeping the same themes using no in-camera sharpening. Sharpen in software.'

Part B page 2 says '...These 3 themes reshot with and without sharpening.'

How's that for contradictory - I just stuck to what it said on page 1. Lisa.



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