Newtoallthis2008
(newbie)
06/06/2008 16:23
17-85IS INSTEAD of 18-55IS lens???

Hi all, i'm going to purchase my 1st SLR in the next couple of wks and having done all my research i am going for the 450d. Obviously will be purchasing lens and herein lies my query!!

Standard kit is the 18-55IS lens. After a bit of reading up the 17-85IS lens seems a better choice! Asking you pro's for a honest opinion on which lens i should get?

I rather not waste my money and get the 18-55 and then decide i need to upgrade and never use it again. The retailer is willing to sell me a 17-85 instead of the basic lens kit with my camera! Should i do this??

Also, is the 17-85 going to be best lens for a beginner like me and meet all my expectations of taking good pics or should i go for another one???

Usage will be portraits, landscapes and some sports!

Your help is greatly appreciated! Thanks.


alanS
(Dr Dust)
06/06/2008 17:06
Re: 17-85IS INSTEAD of 18-55IS lens???

Have a look at Tamron 17-50 f2.8, Sigma 18-50 f2.8 and the Sigma 17-70.

I had a Canon 17-85 but I never used it after getting the Tamron 17-50 f2.8, but, it's not as long as the Canon 17-85.


bench_ubbster
(Bench Meister)
06/06/2008 17:10
Re: 17-85IS INSTEAD of 18-55IS lens???

I've the 17-85IS and I find it a great go-anywhere lens. It is a jack of all trades therefore do expect some limitations in the form of distortion at the wide end. But I don't find it too offensive. This is my first 'standard' dSLR zoom, so I have nothing to compare it to only my Sigma 24-70 f/2.8 which again shows some distortion at the wide end and it's much heftier than the 17-85IS. That's not to say the 17-85IS isn't well put together as it is and it will do me for a good few years.

daft_biker
(Action Man!)
06/06/2008 17:14
Re: 17-85IS INSTEAD of 18-55IS lens???

I hear the 18-55IS is pretty good as kit lenses go. It doesn't seem as bad as the old non-IS kit lens but I've never used either personally. I have the 17-85IS and from the one time I've used it in anger it seems OK.

I guess the 17-85IS does everything the 18-55IS does and then a little more so the 17-85 seems like a safe bet if the extra money isn't a problem.


davidh
(addict)
06/06/2008 18:45
Re: 17-85IS INSTEAD of 18-55IS lens???

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I guess the 17-85IS does everything the 18-55IS does and then a little more so the 17-85 seems like a safe bet if the extra money isn't a problem.




Apparently, the 18-55 does what it does better than the 17-85 for the same range.
It is however a budget lens, and doesn't feel that much different from its predecessor (the images look much better though). It is also perfectly paired to go with the 55-250 IS...
I suppose it comes down to if you have to pay extra for the 17-85, or its the same price. Buying the lenses new, you'd get both the 18-55 and the 55-250 for cheaper than the 17-85.


d123
()
06/06/2008 22:02
Re: 17-85IS INSTEAD of 18-55IS lens???

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I guess the 17-85IS does everything the 18-55IS does and then a little more so the 17-85 seems like a safe bet if the extra money isn't a problem.




Apparently, the 18-55 does what it does better than the 17-85 for the same range.
It is however a budget lens, and doesn't feel that much different from its predecessor (the images look much better though). It is also perfectly paired to go with the 55-250 IS...
I suppose it comes down to if you have to pay extra for the 17-85, or its the same price. Buying the lenses new, you'd get both the 18-55 and the 55-250 for cheaper than the 17-85.




According to the photozone.de test, the 18-55IS actually out performs the 17-85 by quite some distance.


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Unlike most dedicated APS-C standard zoom lenses it is capable to keep a very good level even at the extreme corners of the image field.

Its resolution characteristic is similar to the (much higher priced) EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 USM IS at comparable aperture settings, quite a bit better than the EF-S 17-85mm f/4-5.6 USM IS and naturally vastly improved over its non-IS predecessor!


18-55 Review

Paul_R
(Pooh-Bah)
06/06/2008 22:16
Re: 17-85IS INSTEAD of 18-55IS lens???

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I've the 17-85IS and I find it a great go-anywhere lens.




Me too.


Newtoallthis2008
(newbie)
12/06/2008 12:14
Re: 17-85IS INSTEAD of 18-55IS lens???

Thanks all...will do a little more research! I think best bet would be to take pics with both lens at the shop and see which suits me! Although i do want a 'jack of all trades' lens rather than keep swapping lens every 5 mins. Regards, Jay

NorthernMonkey
(enthusiast)
12/06/2008 13:49
Re: 17-85IS INSTEAD of 18-55IS lens???

You could hire them for a few days, and then choose.

I've had very good expirience with www.lensesforhire.co.uk



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