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Siuya
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(Cool Hand Chris)
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29/02/2008 23:42
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Mar08 comments “Using black and white”
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Please post your comments here for the March comp entries.
Thanks
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(veteran)
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01/03/2008 10:58
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All hail Valhalla
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You've shown us this earlier, Richard. I think it's an absolute cracker and definitely a strong contender.
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bagpuss
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(Prolific Pam)
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01/03/2008 15:05
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Re: All hail Valhalla
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4 entries already? It's only 3pm on the first day - you lot are keen!
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(old'n'grumpy)
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01/03/2008 15:48
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Re: All hail Valhalla
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Quote:
4 entries already? It's only 3pm on the first day - you lot are keen!
Already had the shot for the competition, shot it especially with a monochrome version in my mind.......
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Monobod
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('Phantom' of the forum!)
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01/03/2008 15:50
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Re: All hail Valhalla
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I think you have seen mine before, but I have re-worked it a bit.
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02/03/2008 00:41
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Re: All hail Valhalla
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Trouble is finding an image that looks impressive at 600px.
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(old hand)
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02/03/2008 13:41
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Re: Mr Dark
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Good work Ian perfect subject for B&W.
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APchris
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(Pooh-Bah)
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02/03/2008 19:10
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Re: All hail Valhalla
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4 entries already? It's only 3pm on the first day - you lot are keen!
This will be a VERY popular month and the standard will be exceptionally high 
All hail Valahalla - excellent image 
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Re: All hail Valhalla
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This will be a VERY popular month and the standard will be exceptionally high
Not to worry Chris, my (probable) entry will bring down the class average 
Cheers,
Jack
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APchris
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(Pooh-Bah)
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02/03/2008 23:54
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Re: All hail Valhalla
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Not to worry Chris, my (probable) entry will bring down the class average
Cheers,
Jack
Well thats alright then, my entry won't be bottom of the class  
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Zou
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(Pooh-Bah)
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03/03/2008 09:14
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Quiraing
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The reason I chose my entry was because it has a degree of abstraction which would have been impossible working in colour. The Quiraing are one of the most easily recognised features of Scotland's scenery, and the shot was taken from the exact same point hundreds or thousands of others have stood when taking their pictures.
Using the channel mixer with a predominantly green filter effect has resulted in an image which doesn't have the soot and chalk look popular in B/W landscapes, but also an image which isn't immediately recognisable. The abstraction only works in B/W, and the image can even be (at a glance) seen a Hokusai-esque wave crashing on cliffs. The scale has become lost in B/W, adding mystery.
That, for me, is the point of using black and white - abstraction, and the way it causes you to look at the details to find the 'truth.'
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Re: Quiraing
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Using the channel mixer with a predominantly green filter effect has resulted in an image which doesn't have the soot and chalk look popular in B/W landscapes,
I don't care how you did it, it's lovely. Nice tonal gradations are far more popular than soot and chalk, with me at any rate...
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('Two Breakfasts')
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03/03/2008 10:34
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Re: Quiraing
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Stunning.
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Re: Quiraing
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Quote:
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Using the channel mixer with a predominantly green filter effect has resulted in an image which doesn't have the soot and chalk look popular in B/W landscapes,
I don't care how you did it, it's lovely. Nice tonal gradations are far more popular than soot and chalk, with me at any rate...
Depends on the image. The Quiraing is suitable for just about any treatment IMHO!
It's actually the same approach I took for my February entry, FWIW. Gives a result a little reminiscent of SFX, which is no bad thing in my book.
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APchris
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(Pooh-Bah)
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03/03/2008 12:41
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Re: Quiraing
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Quote:
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Using the channel mixer with a predominantly green filter effect has resulted in an image which doesn't have the soot and chalk look popular in B/W landscapes,
I don't care how you did it, it's lovely. Nice tonal gradations are far more popular than soot and chalk, with me at any rate...
My thoughts exactly - excellent image
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Fen
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(BAD WOLF)
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03/03/2008 12:43
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Re: Quiraing... Noooooooooo
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May as well quit now.
If that doesn't win then I'm a human!
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Re: Quiraing... Noooooooooo
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May as well quit now.
If that doesn't win then I'm a human!
Think you are being a little too defeatist, a little too early Fen!!! Although I admit it is a tremendous B&W landscape image... it doesn't necessarily mean that it will appeal to the judge as much as an equally competent portrait, action shot or still life image.
Having so many great images submitted so early only raises the challenge for me... but then again, I like a good challenge!!! 
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Re: Quiraing... Noooooooooo
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No, no. I think Fen is right. He may as well quit now
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Fen
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(BAD WOLF)
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04/03/2008 13:04
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Re: Quiraing... Noooooooooo
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No, no. I think Fen is right. He may as well quit now
hahahaha
If you have anything to do with it I may as well never enter another AP comp again
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Re: Quiraing... Noooooooooo
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(BAD WOLF)
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04/03/2008 13:08
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Re: Quiraing... Noooooooooo
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Persecution... that's what it is.
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Re: Quiraing... Noooooooooo
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Quote:
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Persecution... that's what it is.
It's not persecution if you deserve to be picked on!
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(Prolific Pam)
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04/03/2008 16:43
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Re: Quiraing... Noooooooooo
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rofl!
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Re: Mar08 comments “Using black and white”
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Lots of these pics are giving me a nostalgia trip. Places I have climbed/walked over. Lovely. Keep it up folks.
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bagpuss
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(Prolific Pam)
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05/03/2008 07:57
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Re: Ingleborough
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That's such a great shot. Taken from near Ribblehead?
I feel homesick now. 
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That zebra is stunning, and made me smile. Not that it's a funny image, but it nails the brief!
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APchris
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(Pooh-Bah)
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05/03/2008 13:51
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Stripes
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Superb image, must be in with a chance! 'Gas Holder' and 'Brush' are very good too!!
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Hotblack
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(Dead Horse Flogger)
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05/03/2008 16:05
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Re: Hotblack
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Thanks chaps. Glad you like it.
It was taken at the very end of January with this very competition in mind (if your watching Damien. It's not one I've plucked off my hard drive)
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Re: Hotblack
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but it nails the brief!
Is that some kind of fetish?
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Hotblack
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(Dead Horse Flogger)
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05/03/2008 16:13
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Re: Hotblack
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but it nails the brief!
Is that some kind of fetish?
Yes. A very painful one. 
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Dave_Cox
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(old'n'grumpy)
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05/03/2008 17:13
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Re: Hotblack
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That zebra is stunning, and made me smile. Not that it's a funny image, but it nails the brief!
Nail the tail on the zebra?
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Re: Hotblack
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Wow, what a great photo of the Zebra. Sure fire winner.
Could even be in colour and we would not know!
Nige.
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BigWill
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(Gorgeous oversensitive Nikon-loving cream puff)
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05/03/2008 20:00
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Boat beach man
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Love Fen's entry....................not sure about his "little man" though , I'd have cloned the bug*er out myself.....................but I ain't Fen, and if he likes his little man then his little man should stay I say!
BigWill
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Adesw
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(The phantom flasher)
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05/03/2008 21:46
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Re: Boat beach man
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I quite like the man, he adds a sence of scale/distance/depth
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Siuya
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(Cool Hand Chris)
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05/03/2008 22:08
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Re: Boat beach man
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Love Fen's entry....................not sure about his "little man" though , I'd have cloned the bug*er out myself.....................but I ain't Fen, and if he likes his little man then his little man should stay I say!
BigWill
You leave Fen's little man alone
Nice one Fen - great angle, great tones
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Dave_Cox
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(old'n'grumpy)
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05/03/2008 22:11
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Re: Boat beach man
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I quite like the man, he adds a sence of scale/distance/depth
Quite. I presume this was taken on Lancing beach - I photographed SM795 there last year!! Looks better in B&W.
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Fen
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(BAD WOLF)
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05/03/2008 22:16
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Re: Boat beach man
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Quite. I presume this was taken on Lancing beach - I photographed SM795 there last year!! Looks better in B&W.
Nearly, was taken on beach at the border of Brighton and Hove.
Glad people like it
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Adesw
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(The phantom flasher)
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05/03/2008 22:19
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Re: Boat beach man
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boat spotters....
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Hotblack
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(Dead Horse Flogger)
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05/03/2008 23:34
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Re: Boat beach man
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boat spotters....
Oh! You've met Fen then, have you?
Easily recognised cruising the beaches dressed in an anorak and clutching a tartan Thermos close to his chest, pen and pad in the other hand and a scuffed telescope hanging on a string around his neck. The tricorn hat and eye-patch are mere affectations however.
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Zou
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(Pooh-Bah)
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05/03/2008 23:45
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Fabs
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Anothing stunner from Fabs. I'm liking that a lot.
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Re: Hotblack
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Thanks chaps. Glad you like it.
It was taken at the very end of January with this very competition in mind (if your watching Damien. It's not one I've plucked off my hard drive)
Liked it the first time I saw it and still do. Good luck on achieving 2/2, David!!!
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Hotblack
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(Dead Horse Flogger)
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06/03/2008 08:41
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Re: Hotblack
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Thanks chaps. Glad you like it.
It was taken at the very end of January with this very competition in mind (if your watching Damien. It's not one I've plucked off my hard drive)
Liked it the first time I saw it and still do. Good luck on achieving 2/2, David!!!
Thank you, kind sir. I have my fingers crossed.
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Re: Ruling please
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Are toned (sepia, selenium gold etc) images acceptable?
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Fen
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(BAD WOLF)
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06/03/2008 11:22
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Re: Ruling please
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Are toned (sepia, selenium gold etc) images acceptable?
I'll notify the Powers with your question.
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Re: Ruling please
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I believe that the answer is… Yes
Having said that I also believe that Elvis is alive and well and living in a Flying Saucer
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Siuya
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(Cool Hand Chris)
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06/03/2008 11:36
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Re: Ruling please
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I believe that the answer is… Yes
Having said that I also believe that Elvis is alive and well and living in a Flying Saucer
I've never heard that before - he's been seen coming out the fish shop down the road but no-one said anything about a Flying Saucer. You're making it up
Quote:
Are toned (sepia, selenium gold etc) images acceptable?
I don't see why not, however, the boss will no doubt elucidate
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Fen
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(BAD WOLF)
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06/03/2008 11:44
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Re: Ruling please
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Are toned (sepia, selenium gold etc) images acceptable?
I don't see why not, however, the boss will no doubt elucidate
The OED gives the definition: A painting executed in different shades of one colour, with representation of light and shade.
But it also says "Black and White" in the brief!
ConFUseD? 
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Re: Ruling please
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The brief interchanges the terms "black and white" and "monochrome" so this is ambiguous to me. I was thinking of a toned image but decided it didn't fit the title "Using Black & White" so went for a greyscale image instead.
I would therefore not expect to be seeing toned images, but then I have been accused of pedancy on the odd occasion...
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Re: Ruling please
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There we go, ever so slightly (selenium) toned. Hardly noticeable.
I submitted this image as part of my AP/SPI people module and Scott (my tutor) liked it, so lets see if his AP colleagues have similar taste (or lack of)
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Re: Ruling please
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Are toned (sepia, selenium gold etc) images acceptable?
Rather carelessly I have used two terms as though they are interchangeable. As such I will except toned and non-toned images.
In actual fact I had intended that toned pictures be allowed.
Cheers all. Glad of the confusion.
dmao
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Re: Ruling please
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Are toned (sepia, selenium gold etc) images acceptable?
Rather carelessly I have used two terms as though they are interchangeable. As such I will except toned and non-toned images.
In actual fact I had intended that toned pictures be allowed.
Cheers all. Glad of the confusion.
dmao
You're excepting them and allowing them?
Shurely shome typo - I think you mean accept...
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Re: Ruling please
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Quote:
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Are toned (sepia, selenium gold etc) images acceptable?
Rather carelessly I have used two terms as though they are interchangeable. As such I will except toned and non-toned images.
In actual fact I had intended that toned pictures be allowed.
Cheers all. Glad of the confusion.
dmao
You're excepting them and allowing them?
Shurely shome typo - I think you mean accept...
What we need is an editor to ensure that such careless mistakes don't happen in the future. Anyone know one? 
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Monobod
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('Phantom' of the forum!)
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06/03/2008 13:55
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Re: Mar08 comments “Using black and white”
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Lots of these pics are giving me a nostalgia trip. Places I have climbed/walked over. Lovely. Keep it up folks.
Not my graveyard shot I hope!
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Re: Ruling please
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Are toned (sepia, selenium gold etc) images acceptable?
I don't see why not, however, the boss will no doubt elucidate
The OED gives the definition: A painting executed in different shades of one colour, with representation of light and shade.
But it also says "Black and White" in the brief!
ConFUseD?
The Fération Internationale de l'Art Photographique (FIAP) state:
"A black and white work fitting from the very dark grey (black) to the very clear grey (white) is a monochrome work with the various shades of grey.
A black and white work toned entirely in a single colour will remain a monochrome work able to stand in the black and white category; such a work can be reproduced in black and white in the catalogue of a salon under FIAP Patronage.
On the other hand a black and white work modified by a partial toning or by the addition of one colour becomes a colour work (polychrome) to stand in the colour category; such a work requires colour reproduction in the catalogue of a salon under FIAP Patronage."
Of course, Damien can define whatever rules he wants as it's his comp.
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Monobod
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('Phantom' of the forum!)
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06/03/2008 14:03
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Re: Ruling please
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Quote:
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Are toned (sepia, selenium gold etc) images acceptable?
Rather carelessly I have used two terms as though they are interchangeable. As such I will except toned and non-toned images.
In actual fact I had intended that toned pictures be allowed.
Cheers all. Glad of the confusion.
dmao
Is it too late for the early posters to change their entry? I have a better (IMHO) image in sepia, but rejected it for a greyscale.
Not wishing to give the hampster a headache, of course!
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(L'éminence Grise, Devil's Advocate & AP Fanboy!)
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06/03/2008 14:12
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Re: Ruling please
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Cheers all. Glad of the confusion.
dmao
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Re: Mar08 comments “Using black and white”
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Lots of these pics are giving me a nostalgia trip. Places I have climbed/walked over. Lovely. Keep it up folks.
Not my graveyard shot I hope!
Not what I had in mind . . . . .  though I must admit to having climbed over a few graves in my time.
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('Phantom' of the forum!)
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06/03/2008 14:14
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Re: Ruling please
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Is that a hanging offence?
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(L'éminence Grise, Devil's Advocate & AP Fanboy!)
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06/03/2008 14:26
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Re: Ruling please
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Quite possibly.
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bagpuss
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(Prolific Pam)
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06/03/2008 14:48
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Re: Ruling please
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Cheers all. Glad of the confusion.
dmao
You should maker that his avatar!
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Siuya
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(Cool Hand Chris)
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06/03/2008 14:55
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Re: Ruling please
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Is it too late for the early posters to change their entry? I have a better (IMHO) image in sepia, but rejected it for a greyscale.
Send me a PM with the new URL and I'll do a Jim'll fix it for you David
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Re: Ruling please
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I told you, but does anyone listen to me? Oh no…
btw Elvis is hovering over St Paul's at the moment…
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(The phantom flasher)
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06/03/2008 16:36
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Re: Ruling please
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I cant work out how to PM :$
I want to replace my entry with this more recent one which I prefer.
http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs29/i/2008/064/9/f/One_big_ride____by_Adesw.jpg
Thankyou moderator
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Siuya
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(Cool Hand Chris)
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06/03/2008 17:19
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Change of entry
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06/03/2008 17:19
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Anothing stunner from Fabs. I'm liking that a lot.
Thanks Zou. She's a friend's Dressage hosre and she's a stunner in colour and mono!
Have to say that this month's is very high quality, some amazing shots. Don't envy Damien his task of judging them.
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Re: Fabs
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She's a friend's Dressage hosre and she's a stunner in colour and mono!
She's a dressage horse?! Looks like she needs a good forelock-pulling (I had her down as some kind of native breed)! Nice image though.
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Is it too late for the early posters to change their entry? I have a better (IMHO) image in sepia, but rejected it for a greyscale.
Send me a PM with the new URL and I'll do a Jim'll fix it for you David
*hand up* I have a question too please
Can we submit a photo that was first shown some time ago in appraisal or exhibition ? Or does it have to be brand spanking new?
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Re: Ruling please
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I believe that the answer is… Yes… followed by No…
<edit>…followed by 'brand spanking new' would be nice though </edit>
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thanks
that's a scary avatar you got there btw 
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(Carpal \'Tunnel)
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06/03/2008 21:04
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Re: Fabs
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She's a friend's Dressage horse and she's a stunner in colour and mono!
She's a dressage horse?! Looks like she needs a good forelock-pulling (I had her down as some kind of native breed)! Nice image though.
She's a young Andalusian in full winter mode. I should mention that my friend is bringing her on and she has not yet done any dressage tests yet. She is an ongoing project, but a stunning horse!
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bagpuss
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06/03/2008 23:25
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Re: Ruling please
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I believe that the answer is… Yes… followed by No…
<edit>…followed by 'brand spanking new' would be nice though </edit>
"I want spanking - I want brand spanking new!"
(Advert for a conservatories firm on local radio!)
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can oblige 
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How rude!
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Monobod
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('Phantom' of the forum!)
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07/03/2008 12:05
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Re: Ruling please
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Had another run through the entries just now. Goodness there are some really good photos there. I would not like to be the judge this month.
Well done everyone, even in advance of the results.
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…and there's still 24 days to go!
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bagpuss
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(Prolific Pam)
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07/03/2008 13:41
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Thank goodness - hope inspiration strikes soon!
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(Pooh-Bah)
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07/03/2008 16:36
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Thank goodness - hope inspiration strikes soon!
Ditto...!!!
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Thank goodness - hope inspiration strikes soon!
Surely you're not saying that you are all equipment and no idea?
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it serves as a warning that I may call, if the mood strikes, a person's bluff
blame the avatar, it woz not me
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Okay, okay! Cards on the table.
The way it works is... those who submit early in the competition have a better chance than those who submit at the last minute? Simple
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photographs up early? um...lost me. Do you mean that those who submit early in the competition have a better chance than those who submit at the last minute?
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Siuya
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(Cool Hand Chris)
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07/03/2008 18:59
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Watch out, watch out. There's a winky about
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Yes
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It may be Friday night but no 'winky' 'till after the watershed - you know the rules!
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It may be Friday night but no 'winky' 'till after the watershed - you know the rules!
confused further...I'm thinking ahead to April, the macro comp, not this month, or am I completely off track here..I think I need to have me dinner now
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Just a reminder as to why we're all here :
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"Using black and white*"
What is special about monochrome? Shoot anything you like in black and white*, but pay attention to what makes monochromatic pictures special and use those characteristics to your advantage.
*Read 'monochrome' for 'black and white'
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When you post your pictures does not matter.
Posting your pictures does matter.
Me? I'm just trying to boost my post count before April
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(Sasquatch)
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07/03/2008 23:52
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added mine..
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Posted mine up at last. All are excellent entries so far - shaping up to be a good month I reckon.
I do have another slightly different shot I was thinking of using (with the king on it's side) but our lass hates it so used the one she likes.
Any comments appreciated as usual
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(Prolific Pam)
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08/03/2008 00:57
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That is brilliant Rhys. You git.
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That is brilliant Rhys. You git.
Now we wait with bated breath for bagpuss to trump us all.
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08/03/2008 09:06
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It's not over until Bagpuss trumps ....
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TheFatControlleR
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(L'éminence Grise, Devil's Advocate & AP Fanboy!)
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08/03/2008 09:41
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Seven..
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(...or maybe Eight)
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08/03/2008 09:48
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really like your picture and David stunning portrait, was this digital or film?
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Thanks Tanya! Mine was digital and colour, but I thought if I convert it to mono the shadow will stand out more and give more character to the picture. The original is here but I quite prefer the mono version myself.
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(...or maybe Eight)
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08/03/2008 10:54
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I find a lot with mono if it's good in colour it's good in mono, like your original version as well
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Linux_Lady
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(Really, really, really nice and friendly)
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08/03/2008 20:27
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Wow.. so many amazing images.
It's quite interesting to see what other pe |
