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Well done - all sorted - you can go back to sleep now on your bench

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Candid/Street - some advice.

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What a giggle 'mens formal wear' well spotted

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Same as Tanya said .

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I just had a look at the link to your photos. There are some very nicely done street scenes,I was curious are they yours?

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My site hosts photographs from a number of photographers as well as a few of my own, the only one of mine which vaguely falls into the category of 'street photography' is this one taken from my bedroom window:



It shows my wife taking the goat for an early morning drag. You can't see the street for the snow.

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Brian Haw has been protesting, against the war in Qraq, in Parliament Square since 2001

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Brian knows what he is doing - You, on the other hand, have not read the rules or the guidelines for submission of entries, have you?

Ah, I see you have now read the guidelines, well done.

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the woman is blurred enough to make you want to see more of her!

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If you ever get to meet her, you'll realise it was an act of kindness to blur her features!

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Rather better than the 'damn tourist getting in the way of the stone lion shot' I have been considering.

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There's time yet, so get out there and shoot some more.

I'll be doing some more myself. The one I've posted is from my 'stock', and I'd rather get something new if I can.

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I dont know where you get your Ideas from, but you manage to come up with a great shot every time --- Not easy.

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Beer helps ...

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I dont know where you get your Ideas from, but you manage to come up with a great shot every time --- Not easy.

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Beer helps ...

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Morning Ian,

Great shot and having the ability to see the/a potential photo-op doesn't hurt as well .

Cheers,

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Clearly this image was so well done that it did indeed fool a few people into thinking it was the "real McCoy" and kudos to Ian for achieving that. It is however "an image of an image" rather than a "genuine" street/candid shot and for this reason I have similar misgivings about it to Alan but purely on the grounds that I think it should be made plain that it is indeed a setup shot and then leave people free to judge it on aesthetic grounds thereafter.

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I have to agree with Will here. I had my suspicions but didn't want to say anything. I did feel it had a 'set-up' feeling to it. Therefore does it count?



Or am I just jealous 'cos Ian keeps puting up stonking pictures.

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Clearly this image was so well done that it did indeed fool a few people into thinking it was the "real McCoy" and kudos to Ian for achieving that. It is however "an image of an image" rather than a "genuine" street/candid shot and for this reason I have similar misgivings about it to Alan but purely on the grounds that I think it should be made plain that it is indeed a setup shot and then leave people free to judge it on aesthetic grounds thereafter.

BigWill

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I have to agree with Will here. I had my suspicions but didn't want to say anything. I did feel it had a 'set-up' feeling to it. Therefore does it count?



Or am I just jealous 'cos Ian keeps puting up stonking pictures.

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it did indeed fool a few people into thinking it was the "real McCoy" and kudos to Ian for achieving that.

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Just for the record, Alan - what is your definition of 'Street photography'?

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Simply a photograph taken in a public space which tells a story, or part of a story, in a single frame and where the photographer is merely an observer exerting no influence on events, but the image should be more than merely a record shot, it should go beyond that, it can be humourous, ironic or whatever but there should be a point to it and in some way reflect the photographer's own take on life.

Street photography like the street itself is fluid, it can't really be constrained by a definition, its whatever you want it to be but there does seem to be a core of thought that many practitioners attempt to adhere to which involves 'telling the truth'. . . . . think of it as a crime scene with the photographer 'gathering evidence'.

I'm afraid that's the best I can do for now - I've just spent the last two hours in Tesco's



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Street photography like the street itself is fluid, it can't really be constrained by a definition, its whatever you want it to be but there does seem to be a core of thought that many practitioners attempt to adhere to which involves 'telling the truth'. . . . .

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I'm not going to mention Henri Cartier-Bresson and faking street scenes.

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So, (for the sake of argument), if a 'scene' were being constructed by a third party (unknown to the photographer) in a street, and you happened across it and made a photograph of that scene, would the result be a valid 'street image'?

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Still a great shot as most would agree

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Absolutely..................no question about that! .........................but for me personally...............knowing that it was a "setup" does detract from it somewhat. Will be very interested to hear Garry's views on it for it must surely make his final list!

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Well captured David

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Like your blue tack though Ian, thats a winner

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Like I said earlier, he comes up with some great ideas...picture gone...blue tack remaining...brilliant

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Whats the big deal? It was s superb photo, and no reason at all to take it down. It says "Candid SLASH street" and nowhere in street do I see it has to be unplanned, or it would be, er, candid... Throughout history street stuff has been planned.

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*"To document and attempt to visually communicate those things in life that are of sufficient interest that we are willing to expend our time and resources in a attempt to record. A exercise in futility. Reportage."


*"If your subject chases you down the street after you make an exposure, you're probably a "street photographer""


*"The homeless and destitute photographers and there are many around!!!
Curious about the "true" definition.... ... .. .yep it's called bullshit"


*"Wasn't there something that Ellington said when asked 'what is jazz?' - if you have to ask you'll never know."

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Street photographers can't even agree on who is one - Cartier-Bresson being one example as mentioned above.

However, I nipped out this afternoon and took a couple of snaps which will probably satisfy the moderate wing, if not the fundamentalist street photographers, and I invite you to choose which one to tack up in t'other thread:


"Suits You"



Curiosity Corner

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Street photographers can't even agree on who is one - Cartier-Bresson being one example as mentioned above

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it would be a continual bone of contention with some if I left it up and it found favour with GCW.

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But at the end of the day, its Garry's decision When I said "what's the big deal" I was referring to the people attacking it for not being their "definition" of a street photograph. One minute it was a great photo, the next "Oohhhh no thats not the title". It was like one of those camera clubs that I dont go to for the same reason.

Im not much into definitions, or the competitive style that some people take. Its not bloody quantum physics is it. Its like the Digital/Film debate all over again, yaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwn

Anyhoo, Id vote for the original anyday. As well as the blue tack Put it back up and sod 'em

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it would be a continual bone of contention with some if I left it up and it found favour with GCW.

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But at the end of the day, its Garry's decision When I said "what's the big deal" I was referring to the people attacking it for not being their "definition" of a street photograph. One minute it was a great photo, the next "Oohhhh no thats not the title". It was like one of those camera clubs that I dont go to for the same reason.

Im not much into definitions, or the competitive style that some people take. Its not bloody quantum physics is it. Its like the Digital/Film debate all over again, yaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwn

Anyhoo, Id vote for the original anyday. As well as the blue tack Put it back up and sod 'em

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Yep...I'll second that

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My own thoughts on the original (I'm working from memory here) and given that Ian had total control over the shot, were that there was just a bit too much blur in the female, there could have been a bit more space below her foot (but that's not a biggy) but the thing that I found really jarring was the wall mural, a plain simple backround would have worked so much better IMO.

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I'm happy with the blur. There are three figures in the background that help make the shot for me - the one with his hand to his mouth, the one pointing out of the right of the picture, and the one appearing to beckon her along. I can't explain in public why, she'd sue me.

The main shot I went to take was this one:


(photo of print)

The colour shot was more of an experiment. The print went on to win a monochrome competition, the colour shot was stored for some time before I used it as it was shot on slide film, and my interest was in monochrome photography primarily.

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So, just for the record Ian, what would your definition of 'street photography' be?

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