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Great tips, thanks. I had read the about keeping the shutter speed faster than the focal length - but forgot until mentioned here. It was in "P" mode, yes shutter priority would have been better, damn! Hey, you live and learn. Of course about 5 mins after taking the shot there was about 4 of the blighters on the feeder - would have made a great shot - my camera was having its battery charged, bugger! As for the bird a Nuthatch is possible as the neighbour tells me he's got a nest (if thats what you call it) in his workshop. Not a clue personally what it is. Harry |