Thanks fatcontroller, but when i mentioned the family computer, I really meant that I have a Wife and 2 kids all demanding that dad get off the boring AP/WDC website so that they can communicate with "Grand Designs" Boy/girl friends, mates in that order. I just want an old fshioned book that I can reference without the 21st Century pressures as outlined above. Imagine in shed, glass of wine, E-500 plus book, quiet, can get on with it. Thats what I want!