Hi, I should be ok for the September date, and APChris's itinerary sounds good (though I suspect we'll be struggling to get a day's photography in on the Sat by the time everyone has got to a rendezvous point).

AA autoroute seems to have gone home with a headache today

. I got a journey time of a little over 3 hours to Brecon, but it gave up before I could get a time to Stratford upon Avon. I would have thought Stratford would have been quite a bit quicker for me.

Either of those sound fine for me - the Brecon Beacons might be more exciting photography wise I guess? Though I am rather scared by talk of hiking and climbing peaks

. I do own a pair of walking boots and am happy to do a bit of yomping, but if anyone's gearing up for a couple of 10 mile hikes before lunch, I think you might find I'm not much company in the evening (on account of being comatose

). Hopefully I will have started to regain some sort of fitness by the end of september, but please bear in mind that we're starting from a very low base and it's going to be quite tricky getting any peak scaling practice in with a 2 year old and a 4 year old in tow

(and no way am I pushing 2 kids in a buggy up a steep slope for any great length of time - no matter how good it is for me in the long run

).

Carole