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Well after over 15 years of taking pictures, I think I've lived pretty well without it. Personally a pen, pencil or somesuch other writing implement and a piece of paper have always helped me.
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SqueamishOssifrage
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Nor is it particularly new - I have been saving my scanned images by location for years, using a self-written database program. Reading the Microsoft information, my system sounds even easier to use - click on the map to create a location, give it a name, enter a visit date, and then drag and drop all the images onto the application to save a thumbnail into the database, together with a link to the original images. Voila - all done and no dreadful keyword entry. The one thing Microsoft is spot on about is that you very rarely forget where you took a picture.
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Depends.... if you're taking record photos of e.g. flora then location is critical as part of the record, and there's unlikely to be any recognisable geographical feature in the photo. I've always carried a small plastic arrow on which the date can be written in felt pen (wipes off for reuse) which I then place on a map with the tip pointed at the exact location and photographed that as part of the record set. I'd love a camera with an inbuilt GPS receiver which automatically stored location (lat & long, or Nat Grid, to better than 10m accuracy) as well as the time ... and kept the time accurate to the nearest second ... this matters for some astronomical work and the clock in most cameras cannot be set accurately enough.
OTOH if I was just taking snapshots then I'd make sure there was some geographical feature which I could recognise in most of the shots.
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A far more useful feature for me would be to be able to record an audio file and associate it with shots. I know some Canon's used to have this facility (the orginal 1D I believe, I first saw it in action at the Commonwealth Games in Manchester in 2002 anyway) but as far as I can tell it's fallen out of favour. It's a real shame the D300 doesn't have it, as it's perfect for being able to record details of a shot as you shoot.
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The D3 does, although it's not something I'll be using
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Another pointless piece of technology looking for a use, but no doubt the great unwashed will fall for another Microsoft marketing assault
Anyway, how am I going to 'geotag' the frames on my rolls of FP4?
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(the orginal 1D I believe, I first saw it in action at the Commonwealth Games in Manchester in 2002 anyway) but as far as I can tell it's fallen out of favour.
Canons still have it.
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... so MS are getting in on the act, but this has been around for a couple of years and a lot better too!
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but this has been around for a couple of years
Or, for Nikon, Fuji and I think Canon, there's this as well. It saves the GPS information directly into the EXIF file, which can then be read by programmes such as lightroom.
Father Christmas was kind enough to get me one, and I have to say its a great little piece of kit.
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So, Luddites are against it, and modernists are for it. Figures.
I geotag some of my stuff, using the Sony GPS device, so that I can see *exactly* where I was when I took the photo. Later this year I'll be travelling across Africa, and I'll be able to plot my entire route and position photos accurately on Google Earth. You can't do that with pencil and paper.
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NorthernNikon
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I really would have appreciated it in Mongolia, if only to tell where the hell I'd been!
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chris000
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So, Luddites are against it, and modernists are for it. Figures.
Not necessarily so. Professionally I use sophisticated digital mapping systems and (genuinely) accurate GPS so I don't think I could be described as a Luddite. I simply do not see the point of in-camera GPS, and if you read some articles on the subject in the professional photographic press there are those that consider it open to abuse.
So much of the time we seem to adopt technology for technology's sake, not because it adds any real value to the process. That does not make me 'against' technology, I just question how we sometimes use it.
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Well after over 15 years of taking pictures, I think I've lived pretty well without it. Personally a pen, pencil or somesuch other writing implement and a piece of paper have always helped me.
Quite. I use a thing called 'memory' which came readily installed in 'brain'. When I come to download the images from the camera I use 'memory' to title the images.
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Well after over 15 years of taking pictures, I think I've lived pretty well without it. Personally a pen, pencil or somesuch other writing implement and a piece of paper have always helped me.
Quite. I use a thing called 'memory' which came readily installed in 'brain'. When I come to download the images from the camera I use 'memory' to title the images.
You've missed the point.
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Hotblack
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Well after over 15 years of taking pictures, I think I've lived pretty well without it. Personally a pen, pencil or somesuch other writing implement and a piece of paper have always helped me.
Quite. I use a thing called 'memory' which came readily installed in 'brain'. When I come to download the images from the camera I use 'memory' to title the images.
You've missed the point.
No I haven't. I think you have with your sweeping generalisations about Luddites or Modernists. I'm no luddite but I can distinguish between useful stuff and pointless gimmicks.
I don't think it's worth a flying f**k when I have memory installed in my head. You obviously need to rely on technology to tell you where you've been.
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NorthernNikon
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I don't think it's worth a flying f**k when I have memory installed in my head. You obviously need to rely on technology to tell you where you've been.
To be fair David, memory'ss fine on a day trip, but even on a week or two week holiday my memory isn't as reliable as I would like. When I went travelling I was away for 18 months. While I tried my best to note locations when I could, my Chinese isn't the best it could be and there are no sign posts in the Gobi desert so information on where my shots were taken is patchy at best.
If I were to do the same trip again, I would almost certainly consider getting some form of GPS tagging.
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Matt_Hunt
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Quite. I use a thing called 'memory' which came readily installed in 'brain'. When I come to download the images from the camera I use 'memory' to title the images.
You've missed the point.
No I haven't. I think you have with your sweeping generalisations about Luddites or Modernists. I'm no luddite but I can distinguish between useful stuff and pointless gimmicks.
I don't think it's worth a flying f**k when I have memory installed in my head. You obviously need to rely on technology to tell you where you've been.
Absolutely. I also find it rather odd that I need Microsoft to tell me where I've been. If the location of the picture is that important to me, I've written it down.
Why oh why can somebody not just produce a product, state what it does and then leave us to decide if we really, really need it. I spend my working day surrounding be 'marketing' and most of it is readily ignored by our target audience because they are sufficiently brainy to ignore the wonderful words, pictures and branding and check that what we offer actually works.
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beejaybee
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So much of the time we seem to adopt technology for technology's sake, not because it adds any real value to the process.
Precisely ... when there is something genuinely helpful that technology can do, and does not interfere with the process of using the tool, it's helpful (but not indispensible) to have it. OTOH when it's only there to show how clever the designers are, it's a nuisance.
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Hotblack
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I don't think it's worth a flying f**k when I have memory installed in my head. You obviously need to rely on technology to tell you where you've been.
To be fair David, memory'ss fine on a day trip, but even on a week or two week holiday my memory isn't as reliable as I would like.
Granted, Barney. What I was reacting to was the arrogant thinking that anybody who doesn't think GPS tagging is a good idea is a luddite, which is patently wrong. As is the assumption that noting down exactly where you are in a small notebook is not as accurate as GPS.
Does one really need to know to within a meter or so? OK some people think so. I happen not to. And a small pad and pen costs a couple of quid. A GPS and all that guff... what?....over £100. I can think of better things to spend my money on.
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