gollum
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Well shot lots of stuff this week and I think I have the first part to module 3, will be re-shooting the second part due to not changing the ISO setting back from 800! 
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CLG
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SOunds like you are steaming ahead...
I am just trying to get the second part of Mod 2. But not really having time at the moment 
But will get it done this week 
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gollum
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Well ive been lucky this week as ive had the week to myself but next is looking busy, swings and rounabouts eh
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CLG
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It does
I really need to sort my second one out .... can't get my act together... taken some of some cars out side my work ... but wasn't happy with them
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gollum
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Thats the problem, doing the image is easy enough, its making it visually pleasing, know what you mean.
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CLG
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I do... but have to get on with things now.
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jude1
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Gollum - you are going at a fair pace here!!!
Eventually sorted out part 1 of mod 2 - have re-done some photos of spanners - just need to tweak them now.
Made a tentative start on part 2 - the panning is not easy - this has really kicked me out of my comfort zone - usually shoot in aperture mode. Gollum - can I pick your brain on this one - your shots of the kart racing were brilliant - did you use a tripod? Also, I was impressed by how sharp your images were, did you use continuous-servo autofocus? My practise shots so far have not been over sharp. Part of the Paralympics are on in Manchester next week - so intend to go to the Velodrome for the day to really try & complete this part. If the cycling gets too much I can always try the athletics! But I need to get more practise in - intend to try moving cars sometime this week - hopefully somewhere not too obvious!
Claire - have you abandoned the train theme?
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GDN
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Hi Jude,
A when photographing and panning a tripod generally does not give you enough flexibility and does not allow you to turn quick enough. A monopod will give you more flexibility and ensure that you can turn and pan quickly and still keep your camera level.
When shooting moving vehicles or any other moving objects your camera auto-focus will probably not be quick enough for fast moving objects. As such it is best to find a location where the vehicles/objects slow down or where you can anticipate the location of the object and allow you to pre-focus in that area.
It takes a little planning and practice but when you get a final panned photo you'll be well impressed!
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jude1
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Gary - hi thanks for response.
3 elements to this shutter priority excercise.
1)slow shutter speed - blurred image.
2)fast shutter speed - frozen image.
3)panned shot.
Took some practise shots - 1) no problem but 2) & 3) not sharp enough. Used tripod - & as you said I was having a few problems - don't have a monopod but can always borrow one - so this an option & think I will take your advice on this one. When I practised on friend cycling - for 2)focused on point where I knew he was going to be with AF & changed to manual thinking this may lock focus but didn't work. For 3)was thinking would have to have camera on continuous autofocus & set to continuous shooting.
Do you have any more thoughts? - as I said, intend to have at least one more practise on moving cars before next week - I want to feel "sort" of reasonably confident as I expect these bikes will be travelling at some speed!
Jude
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GDN
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Two suggestions. 1) try use your tripod as a monopod... put all the legs together and use it as a single leg. 2) when taking panning shots I hold my elbows right into my body and turn at the hips to follow the movement around. Try it, it feels a little akward at first but you begin to pan quite fluidly.
Couple examples of my panning shots. Both were taken without a monopod and were hand held.
Practice on cars driving past your house or your work.
Motor bikes are a little bit tougher as they are often quicker and smaller than a vehicle... but again all you can do is practice.
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jude1
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Thanks again - yep - will be out there tomorrow in between rain showers. Actually they won't be motorbikes but those of the pedal variety next week!
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gollum
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Gollum - you are going at a fair pace here!!!
Eventually sorted out part 1 of mod 2 - have re-done some photos of spanners - just need to tweak them now.
Made a tentative start on part 2 - the panning is not easy - this has really kicked me out of my comfort zone - usually shoot in aperture mode. Gollum - can I pick your brain on this one - your shots of the kart racing were brilliant - did you use a tripod? Also, I was impressed by how sharp your images were, did you use continuous-servo autofocus? My practise shots so far have not been over sharp. Part of the Paralympics are on in Manchester next week - so intend to go to the Velodrome for the day to really try & complete this part. If the cycling gets too much I can always try the athletics! But I need to get more practise in - intend to try moving cars sometime this week - hopefully somewhere not too obvious!
Claire - have you abandoned the train theme?
Jude
The pace is due to the fact I've had a bit of spare time on my hands...lol...nothing more.
I agree with Gary in that a tripod didn't allow enough flexibility...I did try! So I went for hand holding, it took some practice to get to grips with and I filled the memory card up in ten minutes and had to empty it out at least three times just practicing the panning exercise!
The autofocus was left in continuous and seemed to cope ok once it was locked onto the Kart before firing the shutter, but once again as Gary has said you could try pre focusing on a known area your subject is passing. I like the idea of the cycling should make for some good pics with all that bright lycra 
And moving cars is a good one to pratice on, pratice from a distance first its easier 
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jude1
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Gollum thanks for the reply & your advice - this is much appreciated. Yeah - I think I will take your's & Gary's advice & abandon the tripod - but will probably try out the monopod idea. Intend to have a couple of training sessions on moving cars before next week. It's the cycling Paralympics world cup so should be plenty of opportunities. Apparently it's not well attended, which is a great shame that these guys aren't better supported - but from my point of view there should be plenty of room to move about.
Keep us all posted on how you're doing with Module 3 - I'm going away for a week towards the end of May - so hoping I will be able to get some ideas for this module then.
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gollum
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All done and posted
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jude1
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Well done Gollum - some really nice shots. I was interested to see the outcome of excercise 2 - the perspective IS very different in each of the pics.
I also notice that you used 48mm as your focal length for excercise 3. I had been thinking about this & had assumed I would be working about 50mm - so that's encouraging for me.
Shall we start ordering the champagne now for when you complete the last module!!!
By the way, I did do some practise shots of moving cars on Wednesday, - yes the panning is better & I was happier with the focus. Will probably have another go early next week & HOPEFULLY may be in a position to get this module done & dusted by the end of the week.
Have a good weekend - Jude
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GDN
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Well done Gollum. Nice set of images there.
Could you outline what the intent of module 3 was for me. Thanks.
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gollum
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Hi Jude ....and thanks. yes the perspective goes out the window,its certainly made me look now before shooting now. your quite right I believe the exercise did say standard length lens,I was using a 18-55mm and figured 48mm was close enough, didn't fancy walking back three miles to retake the shot....lol
Champange...lol....might stretch to a couple of beers
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gollum
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Well done Gollum. Nice set of images there.
Could you outline what the intent of module 3 was for me. Thanks.
thanks
The Module was lens power:
The first exercise required you to take a picture and staying in the same postion, change lens and take two further pictures within the picture.
The second, was to shoot an object at both extreme of focal length, to see what effect each lens had on perspective.
The third part was to shoot a picture and by changing focal length give your picture more impact.
Hope that helps
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GDN
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Thanks Gollum. We appear to have similar modules but just in slightly different orders. Still a nice set of images and you appear to have forfilled the module brief.
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