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A few of us from PhotoPortal have gotten together to do an exhibition ooop North so anyone in the Bolton area fancy looking in it is being held in the Rivington Park Galleries.
contact me if you would like full directions.
We are also hoping to take this around the country 
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A few of us from PhotoPortal have gotten together to do an exhibition ooop North so anyone in the Bolton area fancy looking in it is being held in the Rivington Park Galleries.
contact me if you would like full directions.
Great stuff....... But, there is no such English word as 'gotten' the word is 'got'
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A few of us from PhotoPortal have gotten together to do an exhibition ooop North so anyone in the Bolton area fancy looking in it is being held in the Rivington Park Galleries.
contact me if you would like full directions.
Great stuff....... But, there is no such English word as 'gotten' the word is 'got'
Que? Gotten is very definitely a word in English.  It's the past participle of ' to get'...
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Thanks Nick, yep in my Oxford Dic it's most certainly that
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Well, if it is there then it is simply there because it is in common usage in North America. It is only in my copy of the Cambridge American English Dictionary, not the British version. It does have origins going back to the 4th century in these islands. However, it fell into disuse and appears to have been picked up again in the age of Websters' America.
I stand corrected on there being no such word, because of course the word does exist. However, the use of 'gotten' is regarded as very poor English on both sides of the Atlantic and especially so here because it essentailly fell out of common use and it appears very strange when used in the UK. Certainly an English exam board would not like the word used and I'd certainly never allow a letter out of my office with that word contained on the page.
Thus speaks someone who is dis dyslexx deslisx .... I can't spell lol 
It is simply listed as an American word in the Cambridge Dictonary, it is simply not a British English word. It has always been in Websters of course.
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the use of 'gotten' is regarded as very poor English
Does that include its use in 'ill-gotten gains', I wonder?
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the use of 'gotten' is regarded as very poor English
Does that include its use in 'ill-gotten gains', I wonder?
Interesting point, but I suspect it would be deemed as a slang phrase, which itself has roots back into the middle ages. Let us remember that American English continues to use words words and some pronauciations which would have been common in the UK some 300 years ago, but British English has moved on. The real exception to this would be certain words in the grouping such as Organization ... z is correct s is not correct and fell into general use sometime after WW1 so I'm given to understand.
Just found this .......
The past participle gotten is rarely used in modern BrE (although it is used in some dialects), which generally uses got, except in old expressions such as ill-gotten gains. According to the Compact Oxford English Dictionary, "The form gotten is not used in British English but is very common in North American English, though even there it is often regarded as non-standard." In AmE, gotten emphasizes the action of acquiring and got tends to indicate simple possession (for example, Have you gotten it? versus Have you got it?). Gotten is also typically used in AmE as the past participle for phrasal verbs using get, such as get off, get on, get into, get up, and get around: If you hadn't gotten up so late, you might not have gotten into this mess. Interestingly, AmE, but not BrE, has forgot as a less common alternative to forgotten for the past participle of forget.
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the use of 'gotten' is regarded as very poor English
Does that include its use in 'ill-gotten gains', I wonder?
Interesting point, but I suspect it would be deemed as a slang phrase, which itself has roots back into the middle ages. Let us remember that American English continues to use words words and some pronauciations which would have been common in the UK some 300 years ago, but British English has moved on. The real exception to this would be certain words in the grouping such as Organization ... z is correct s is not correct and fell into general use sometime after WW1 so I'm given to understand.
Just found this .......
The past participle gotten is rarely used in modern BrE (although it is used in some dialects), which generally uses got, except in old expressions such as ill-gotten gains. According to the Compact Oxford English Dictionary, "The form gotten is not used in British English but is very common in North American English, though even there it is often regarded as non-standard." In AmE, gotten emphasizes the action of acquiring and got tends to indicate simple possession (for example, Have you gotten it? versus Have you got it?). Gotten is also typically used in AmE as the past participle for phrasal verbs using get, such as get off, get on, get into, get up, and get around: If you hadn't gotten up so late, you might not have gotten into this mess. Interestingly, AmE, but not BrE, has forgot as a less common alternative to forgotten for the past participle of forget.
Yep! I've gotten a sore head now  
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crikey didn't realise I was in an English lesson!
I guess it's just one of those words you pick up and I typed it without a thought!
A O level so I'm not a total thicky when it comes to English, when typing on a forum I give little notice to my English or to my spelling or typos, different case if I was writing a document or letter
Mark you remind me of an old friend scm who used to be on this forum
Btw there is no 'if' about it IT is definitely in my English dictionary and I have witnesses
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I'm finding a hiding hole at once, lest I cause any more trouble. Truth be known, my English is terrible at the best of times ...lol
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Why call it british english? :s
That's like saying french french
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Why call it british english? :s
That's like saying french french
And your point is? The phrase "French French" is used at least as often as "British English", to differentiate it from the rather different versions spoken in Belgium, Switzerland and Quebec etc. - the Microsoft Word spellchecker lists 15 variants of French. My favourite wind-up of a Frenchman is to tell him that the Belgians speak a much more sensible version of French than they do - and when you point out "septante" and "nonante" most of 'em have to (grudgingly!) agree. If you REALLY want to upset them, tell them that the Quebequois speak better French than the French do...
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French? You haven't heard pigdin French until you hear Cajun French, it's interspersed with English (when they forget the French word they meant to use).
Oh, and Scottish English is totally something else too, by the way but, like y'ken loon.
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The way we are going it should be English US particularly with me saying things like 'gotten'
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The way we are going it should be English US particularly with me saying things like 'gotten'
When did you last gotten a squirrel? 
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The way we are going it should be English US particularly with me saying things like 'gotten'
When did you last gotten a squirrel?
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The way we are going it should be English US particularly with me saying things like 'gotten'
When did you last gotten a squirrel?
lol
Not only do we have to contend with yank grey squirrels taking over the countryside but now we have mutant black squrrels .... It's more than a language thing 
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crikey haven't seen a black one yet!
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