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Repton
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No controversy
      #635322 - 30/03/2008 20:33

None this week - what are we gonna do

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El Sid
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Re: No controversy [Re: Repton]
      #635486 - 31/03/2008 08:55

Invent some...

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Repton
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Re: No controversy [Re: El Sid]
      #635513 - 31/03/2008 09:48

OK Good idea

What's AP got against the Halina Paulette Electric then!! There's never any copy on it. I reckon it would do well percentage-wise when compared with a Zorki 4 and an Instamatic


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Re: No controversy [Re: Repton]
      #635526 - 31/03/2008 10:27

You reckon? Which Instamatic?

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Repton
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Re: No controversy [Re: Benchista]
      #635527 - 31/03/2008 10:29

the bakelite one - or was it plastic. The lens was

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beejaybee
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Re: No controversy [Re: Repton]
      #635580 - 31/03/2008 12:07

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the bakelite one - or was it plastic. The lens was



The lens was what? Bakelite? Might have made better pictures if it was - you could have drilled a 0.1mm diameter hole straight through the middle


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Repton
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Re: No controversy [Re: beejaybee]
      #635640 - 31/03/2008 14:20

I meant the lens - definitely plastic

I got my first converging vertical with an Instamatic - Lichfield cathedral.

I'd score the Kodak 12% - the Zorki 67.35% and the Paulette Electric (made in Oz I believe) 97.924%


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Re: No controversy [Re: Repton]
      #635649 - 31/03/2008 14:50

Hmmmm. Personally, I would score the Zorki way higher than the Paulette, which might even finish bottom in the build quality category.

Anyway, I sold the Zorki for cash. I can't give away the Instamatic, and I was on the receiving end of someone giving me the Paulette - so the podium has to be 1. Zorki, 2. Halina, 3. Kodak.

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Re: No controversy [Re: Benchista]
      #635677 - 31/03/2008 15:25

Hmmm.

Quote:

I can't begin to tell you how disappointed I am that the Zorki produced such hopeless results... Unfortunately the results were rubbish most of the time because the shutter is, quite frankly, knackered. I can only hope it got this way through some serious use from a loving, previous owner - but somehow I doubt it.





Well, that was the conclusion of a three-way test of the Zorki 4, Fed 4, and Kiev 5 back in 2000. The Kiev was the clear winner, BTW. Ah well, all of them were some 30 years or so of age, so a knackered shutter here or there doesn't seem too unreasonable to this loving Zorki 4K owner. :-)

Oh, and the reviewer in question? - a young and upwardly mobile photography journalist by the name of Damien Demolder. ;-)

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Re: No controversy [Re: huwevans]
      #635681 - 31/03/2008 15:31

I've just noticed - in the same issue of AP Damien also tested three rather more modern APS cameras - an Olympus, a Kodak, and a Canon. The Canon won.

Is that controversial anough for the Olympus forum? ;-)

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Repton
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Re: No controversy [Re: Benchista]
      #635682 - 31/03/2008 15:34

Hmmmn while I respect, and indeed would defend in principle, your right to hold such an blinkered view, I have to report that my Zorki fell apart after 3 months! I'll admit that my instamatic was always @@@@.

Only the MAGNIFICENT Halina Paulette Electric survived Saturdays at Villa Park and the grounds of assorted lesser football clubs. Build quality was superb - like the E-1. Not quite showerproof but almost. It prepared me well for the sophistication of the Zenit E

And what a design classic - and years ahead of itself



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Repton
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Re: No controversy [Re: huwevans]
      #635683 - 31/03/2008 15:35

Quote:

I've just noticed - in the same issue of AP Damien also tested three rather more modern APS cameras - an Olympus, a Kodak, and a Canon. The Canon won.

Is that controversial anough for the Olympus forum? ;-)




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mike_j
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Re: No controversy [Re: huwevans]
      #635764 - 31/03/2008 19:33

Quote:

I've just noticed - in the same issue of AP Damien also tested three rather more modern APS cameras - an Olympus, a Kodak, and a Canon. The Canon won.

Is that controversial anough for the Olympus forum? ;-)




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ACS
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Re: No controversy [Re: mike_j]
      #636055 - 01/04/2008 12:36

Well, I thought the 3 way test last week might have kicked up more of a fuss than it did. I suspect we're so used to AP panning oly that nobody cares any more! (Anyone checked the release dates of those three models? Heh heh...)

But lets here it for Halina: I've got a Halina x35 from around 1950. I rescued it from a pub, where it kept the door to the bar open, and was handy for the bouncer who used it to add a bit of iron to his clenched fist if things got a bit hectic.

I keep it under the bed in case of burglars, it appears to be cast from a solid lump of metal, and is as far as I can tell indestructible.

Seriously folks, when I'd cleaned the lens up (probably destroying the coating, if it ever had any) it worked a treat, still use it, got an ASA 400 B/W film in there now.

Hey, here's some pics: just look at that polished cast iron. And you thought the E3 was tough.
http://www.flickr.com/search/?s=int&w=all&q=halina+35x&m=tags

Edited by ACS (01/04/2008 12:39)


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Repton
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Re: No controversy [Re: ACS]
      #636128 - 01/04/2008 14:38

Wonderful. Proper cameras these Halinas not like these populist non Oly ice cream tub dslrs

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Re: No controversy [Re: Repton]
      #636154 - 01/04/2008 15:35

Quote:

Wonderful. Proper cameras these Halinas not like these populist non Oly ice cream tub dslrs




At least you don't need a magnifying glass to find them...







.........or tweezers to use the controls.......

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Repton
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Re: No controversy [Re: El Sid]
      #636161 - 01/04/2008 15:45

Quote:

At least you don't need a magnifying glass to find them... .........or tweezers to use the controls.......




Ah but most Oly users have normal sized hands


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El Sid
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Re: No controversy [Re: Repton]
      #636212 - 01/04/2008 16:51

So Munchkins do exist!!!



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RogerMac
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Re: No controversy [Re: Repton]
      #636226 - 01/04/2008 17:12

Quote:

Quote:

At least you don't need a magnifying glass to find them... .........or tweezers to use the controls.......




Ah but most Oly users have normal sized hands




Not all of us - I have large hands and embarrass my sons in law every Christmas by cracking nuts without the aid of nutcrackers, and I still think that the E510 size is perfect!


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Re: No controversy [Re: RogerMac]
      #636229 - 01/04/2008 17:11

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

At least you don't need a magnifying glass to find them... .........or tweezers to use the controls.......




Ah but most Oly users have normal sized hands




Not all of us - I have large hands and embarrass my sons in law every Christmas by cracking nuts without the aid of nutcrackers, and I still think that the E510 size is perfect!




They your son-in-laws nuts?

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